Garage woes - volvo v50 - a plausible tale?
Garage woes - volvo v50 - a plausible tale?
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alan1977

Original Poster:

3 posts

143 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Hi All

Newbie here and starting with some garage woes.

2 months ago my Volvo v50 (08 reg) broke down. I got it taken to a local garage who has had it since.

The issue turned out to be the fuel pump. The car, two months later, now starts and is driveable. Over the course of the two months they chased down everything it could be including refurbished the injectors @ £600, replaced the fuel filter (£50), replaced the catyltic converter(£?), the cam belt (£90), the fuel pump (£460), various bearings (£60) until they got the fuel pump so my bill is now £2k++ if you include labour + VAT. The car is worth maybe £4.5k. I've made several mistakes - I said I wasn't in a hurry, I said fix it cheaply so I can't have many complaints about the time and in some ways the cost.

Trouble is, it needed an MOT and now they've got the car started they tell me (in a rather jolly voice) it's failed it's MOT because the drivers air bag light is on and I need a new ECU - £600 plus fitting. They've tried erasing the codes and they come back.

I'm seriously doubting the service now and not sure whether to tell them to stop, take the car away from them and take it somewhere else or whether to continue. I'm going to sell it/trade it in as soon as it comes back but...

So questions
- Am I being taken for a ride or does this sound plausible?
- Should I take it out and go somewhere else?
- anyone want to buy it? smile

Cheers

Alan

BritishRacinGrin

26,581 posts

190 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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These modern diesels are nice and cheap to run aren't they!?

Your garage may have good intentions but by the sounds of things are pretty poor at diagnosis to say the least- what you have there are 'fitters' not 'mechanics' or 'technicians'.

ben5732

763 posts

186 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Fuel pump would of been one of the first things I changed... Sounds like you're being taken for a ride to me... Take it somewhere else it will most likely be something simple for the airbag

*Fletch*

290 posts

213 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Another vote for incompetence here. The fuel pump should be high up on the list of suspects for a fuelling issue! (i.e. non-starter)

Megaflow

11,561 posts

255 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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alan1977 said:
Hi All

Newbie here and starting with some garage woes.

2 months ago my Volvo v50 (08 reg) broke down. I got it taken to a local garage who has had it since.

The issue turned out to be the fuel pump. The car, two months later, now starts and is driveable. Over the course of the two months they chased down everything it could be including refurbished the injectors @ £600, replaced the fuel filter (£50), replaced the catyltic converter(£?), the cam belt (£90), the fuel pump (£460), various bearings (£60) until they got the fuel pump so my bill is now £2k++ if you include labour + VAT. The car is worth maybe £4.5k. I've made several mistakes - I said I wasn't in a hurry, I said fix it cheaply so I can't have many complaints about the time and in some ways the cost.

Trouble is, it needed an MOT and now they've got the car started they tell me (in a rather jolly voice) it's failed it's MOT because the drivers air bag light is on and I need a new ECU - £600 plus fitting. They've tried erasing the codes and they come back.

I'm seriously doubting the service now and not sure whether to tell them to stop, take the car away from them and take it somewhere else or whether to continue. I'm going to sell it/trade it in as soon as it comes back but...

So questions
- Am I being taken for a ride or does this sound plausible?
- Should I take it out and go somewhere else?
- anyone want to buy it? smile

Cheers

Alan
What was actually wrong with it, I struggle to see how a fuel problem (assumption based on fuel filters, pumps, injectors, etc) can end up with changing cat, cambelts, and bearings.

I fear who may have already been taken for the ride...

ben5732

763 posts

186 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Also regarding the airbag have an auto electriction check the wiring as it could be as simple as a broken cable under the a seat after a quick Google...

rejn

2,020 posts

252 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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I'd suggest you get the car back ASAP and take it elsewhere.

It sounds like they have taken you for a complete ride - some of the things they've replaced (cat converters?) are just nonsense. If I was in your position, I'd probably take the car elsewhere and have it independently verified that they have done the work they've billed you for...

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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They are either massively incompetent or dishonest, and I suspect the former to be honest. I'd not be going back there!

alan1977

Original Poster:

3 posts

143 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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thanks for the replies, folks!

I'm pleased I chose diesel for the fuel economy smile

Original issue - not sure exactly. It lost power on a dual carriageway then it refused to start. There was a relationship between the cat converter and the cam belt - something about a cat converter would have probably caused the cam belt to go?

I'm still on the ride though I've pressed the pause button. Sounds like I should be getting it out of there!!

I've already put down a deposit on a different car - I'm moving away from this one. SHould I feel bad about selling it to some other punter or should I feel pretty bloody good about it having spend thousands on it? Someone may be getting a good deal. I don't know how to look at it to be honest...


Steve_F

881 posts

224 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Sounds familiar. My 850 T5-R went into a garage as it wasn't starting, told them I wasn't in a rush, same thing changing random bits before doing the immobiliser.

Took a while to get the issues resolved that they'd caused to get it running. Had used them for simple things and got a decent service at a good price, was only after that I heard a few horror tales about them.

Worst thing was it had just been machine polished before going in, sat for a few months gathering dust and got washed with a brush that lived on the ground. Raging didn't start to describe how I felt when he announced we've washed it for you for free...

Very little you can do apart from never using them again, probably worth cutting your losses and taking it to a good local garage...

S10GTA

13,806 posts

197 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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alan1977 said:
There was a relationship between the cat converter and the cam belt - something about a cat converter would have probably caused the cam belt to go?
WHAT?!

8Ace

2,836 posts

228 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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S10GTA said:
alan1977 said:
There was a relationship between the cat converter and the cam belt - something about a cat converter would have probably caused the cam belt to go?
WHAT?!
DOUBLE WHAT??!!

Incompetent thievery.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

178 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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S10GTA said:
alan1977 said:
There was a relationship between the cat converter and the cam belt - something about a cat converter would have probably caused the cam belt to go?
WHAT?!
Yeah, that's stretching the imagination.


The closest I could guess is that lambda sensors before and after the cat could through up fueling error codes, and a cam position sensor could prevent the engine starting - the only thing in common I can think of (and I'm not in anyway qualified to diagnose) is that they would/might both throw up error codes/EML light.

johnnyBv8

2,482 posts

221 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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They're taking the p*ss. Get the car back and get another garage to reset the airbag light - I bet there's no ECU problem, unless their incompetence extends to damaging the ECU!

crofty1984

17,064 posts

234 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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8Ace said:
S10GTA said:
alan1977 said:
There was a relationship between the cat converter and the cam belt - something about a cat converter would have probably caused the cam belt to go?
WHAT?!
DOUBLE WHAT??!!

Incompetent thievery.
I dunno, maybe very competent thievery.

bqf

2,290 posts

201 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Before you get the car back, check that they have replaced the bevelled spill trungings, the slippery nipple valves and that the long stands have been greased. Probably another £1,000 but worth doing. Also check the tartan paint seals were done.

rofl

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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8Ace said:
S10GTA said:
alan1977 said:
There was a relationship between the cat converter and the cam belt - something about a cat converter would have probably caused the cam belt to go?
WHAT?!
DOUBLE WHAT??!!

Incompetent thievery.
Yeah, I think I'll retract my initial statement that it was probably incompetence, they sound like lying thieves now.

steveo3002

11,214 posts

204 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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sounds like a bunch of tools

do you have anyone you know thats capable of looking to see if it really has had these parts fitted ?

Mound Dawg

1,929 posts

204 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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alan1977 said:
I'm pleased I chose diesel for the fuel economy smile
In fairness it's hardly used any fuel in the last couple of months. wink

cj2013

1,409 posts

156 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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S10GTA said:
WHAT?!
To be fair, if the Cat escaped from its metal box then it could run all around the engine and get its claws in the cambelt.

It could have pee'd on the ECU and caused water damage.

hehe

To the OP: I assume that you have part receipts or something to confirm that the parts have actually been changed?