RE: Shelby GT350 Mustang revealed
RE: Shelby GT350 Mustang revealed
Wednesday 19th November 2014

Shelby GT350 Mustang revealed

Flat-plane crank and over 500hp for next-gen Shelby Mustang (Updated with new pics!)



They called yesterday 'Mustang Monday' in the states, as Ford revealed its latest and greatest Mustang ever. And it looks like a Mustang that the whole world will be interested in.

Unlike the drag-racing inspired previous model, the Shelby GT500, the new GT350 appears to be a far more rounded package. The original GT350 was a legendary circuit racing car, remember. Not a drag racer. Although with "over 500hp" from an all-new V8 engine, it's hardly slow. We could talk about the new magnetic dampers, the claimed zero-lift aerodynamics or the humongous brakes, but...

Ford hasn't hung around giving Mustang real teeth
Ford hasn't hung around giving Mustang real teeth
That engine! Ford, for the first time in its long history, has built a flat-plane crank V8. It's a massive step-change that will reserve this Mustang a place in the history books. No matter how good or bad it is. By ditching the lumpy but smooth norm of an American cross-plane crank, Ford is showing it doesn't care as much about smoothness and noise, so much as performance and speed.

A flat-plane crank V8 is normally the domain of high-revving, pure racing engines. We're talking not just Ferraris, but F1 and DTM powerplants. While a cross-plane crank might be heavier, smoother and offer superior primary and secondary balance, that doesn't help on a race track. There it's the even firing order of the flat-plane crank that makes for better exhaust flow at higher revs.

That's not to say you can't make it emissions friendly, smooth and versatile though. Just look at the Ferrari California, for example. American sources are also reporting an indicated redline of 8,200rpm, and with the technology and commitment we can see in the spec sheet, would it be too much to ask for 100hp per litre from 5.2 litres? 520 would be a nice round number.

Stripes predictable, 8,000rpm+ perhaps not
Stripes predictable, 8,000rpm+ perhaps not
And, hold on to your ten-gallon hats for a moment, this new Mustang looks like it will handle even better than the regular GT. Money has been thrown at the dampers. Ford is finally jumping on the magnetic damping bandwagon (imagine that, a cart with magnetic dampers!) by fitting, in your best Stateside voiceover accent please, 'MagnaRide'. Ford also says it's got a wider track, strut braces, and composite carbon fibre grille opening. Wait, we're not sure how that affect handling, but Ford says it does in the official press release we've hosted here if you really want to geek out.

Tyres are Michelin Pilot Super Sport though, and while no rubber sizes are mentioned, they're going to be going on 19x10.5s up front and huge 19x11s on the back.

Ford hasn't released prices or dates yet, but the chances of an official import to Europe must be slim to non-existent. While we will certainly, for the first time ever, be getting the new 2.3 turbo and 5.0 V8 models in Europe, there's little chance of this 5.2-litre behemoth making the trip.

Would Ford sell enough cars here to warrant investment in the additional homologation required for a new engine? We'd love to say yes, because 520hp. Because 180-degree firing order. Because V8 and manual six-speed 'box with Torsen diff and independent rear suspension!

But, sadly, probably not. But never say never, right?





   

Official Ford vid here

Unofficial exhaust noise clip

[Sources: The Fast Lane Car, via YouTube]

   
   
   

 

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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

44,928 posts

210 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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smokin I have a lot of want for this car. biggrin

redroadster

1,886 posts

262 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Yes put me down for one , the Americans are not scared of producing real muscle cars bravo.

robinessex

12,024 posts

211 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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It'll sound awful.

irocfan

49,010 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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impressive - but still ugly

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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robinessex said:
It'll sound awful.
Of course it will, who needs a V8 when you can have sound generators....

Dale Lomas

218 posts

185 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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robinessex said:
It'll sound awful.
Did you press play on the videos? It sounds, and I hesitate to drop my facade of journalistic integrity, f*cking aggressive!

toon10

7,142 posts

187 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Front end of a 3 series, lower side profile of a Boxster/Cayman with side windows from an AMV8. If you're going to style a car by taking strong cues from other cars, I suppose there are a lot worse they could have chosen. I think it looks great!

Gorbyrev

1,171 posts

184 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Dale Lomas said:
robinessex said:
It'll sound awful.
Did you press play on the videos? It sounds, and I hesitate to drop my facade of journalistic integrity, f*cking aggressive!
There is a hint of Koenigsegg in there which is a mighty good thing in my book. What will that sound like at 8000rpm eek
Given that the last GT500 was all go and not a lot of slow, lacking the fundamentals to make it a proper sports car, this looks more like the Boss 302 in comparison.
Have to wait for the reviews but it looks like a compelling machine. Well done Ford! bow

toohuge

3,496 posts

246 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Hugely ambitious to take on an engine redesign like that..... I just hope that it all works out OK for Ford - it's good to see innovation like this. I am hoping Ford Racing offer this engine as a crate, as it will make some really, really good sounding custom cars.

flatso

1,366 posts

159 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Ohh yeahhhh! Thats a badass looking Stang. Is Ford bringing this to Europe?

Motorrad

6,811 posts

217 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Ford have a history of nailing it, Mustang wise, over the past few years. I'd be prepared to bet this is fking awesome.

Fartgalen

6,932 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Yes please.

ManiacGT

537 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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I'm lost... So we've a 2.5 turbo and the 5.0 V8 coming. Is the 5.0 V8 the GT500? Is the GT350 more powerful etc, if so then why the lower number/nomenclature? ...lost... I need a version spec sheet!

JDMDrifter

4,064 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Muscle cars rule, modern muscle cars just win! Murica is really getting their act together with cars like this.

365daytonafan

283 posts

215 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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ManiacGT said:
I'm lost... So we've a 2.5 turbo and the 5.0 V8 coming. Is the 5.0 V8 the GT500? Is the GT350 more powerful etc, if so then why the lower number/nomenclature? ...lost... I need a version spec sheet!

5.0 is the GT not GT500 there is no GT500 in the current version of the Mustang yet.

Surprised there seems little chance of it coming here. The spec sheet sounds like it was made to directly take on the M4 and C63 Coupe in the showrooms?

V88Dicky

7,373 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Sounds good, better than the usual sound of a flat-plane crank V8, ie two four cylinder engines running at the same time.

I'll reserve further judgement 'til I hear it getting spanked round a track smile

John_S4x4

1,364 posts

287 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Sounds great !

I wonder how this compares to the Z28 Camaro ?

chilled901

405 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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And now the requisite ring videos. Sounds oh so lovely. biggrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyLHStnfb9E

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

44,928 posts

210 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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chilled901 said:
And now the requisite ring videos. Sounds oh so lovely. biggrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyLHStnfb9E
Awesome noise. biggrin

pigeonskirt

506 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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365daytonafan said:
ManiacGT said:
I'm lost... So we've a 2.5 turbo and the 5.0 V8 coming. Is the 5.0 V8 the GT500? Is the GT350 more powerful etc, if so then why the lower number/nomenclature? ...lost... I need a version spec sheet!

5.0 is the GT not GT500 there is no GT500 in the current version of the Mustang yet.

Surprised there seems little chance of it coming here. The spec sheet sounds like it was made to directly take on the M4 and C63 Coupe in the showrooms?
I agree. I'd take this over an M4 or C63!