RE: F-Type manual - confirmed!
RE: F-Type manual - confirmed!
Wednesday 19th November 2014

F-Type manual - confirmed!

ZF six-speed 'box introduced with Jaguar's extensive MY16 facelift, only availble with V6 and RWD



There is more than just the introduction of a manual gearbox in the latest raft of Jaguar F-Type updates. There is also all-wheel drive, electric steering and new infotainment as well. But this is PH, so where else are we going to start?

Now this, this is a good view
Now this, this is a good view
The ZF-developed six-speed manual will be offered only with the two V6 engine options (either 340hp or 380hp) and exclusively as a rear-wheel drive model. There is much to be encouraged by in Jaguar's press material, describing the manual as 'a sports car for purists' and as a model 'designed to give enthusiasts the most rewarding driving experience possible'.

To that end there is no auto-blip downshift function, instead a focus on how perfectly placed the pedals are for heel and toe downchanges. In a Jaguar! The shift throw is said to be just 45mm and 'extensive development and testing' has gone into setting the gearknob in the ideal place for all driving. The armrest has even been moved so as not to inhibit your gearshifting.

To the numbers. The manual will be £1,800 less than the equivalent auto, placing the V6 manual coupe at £51,250. For the S that figure rises to £60,250 with a £5,485 premium for the cabrio. The tech data also reveals the manual is 10kg lighter than the auto but slower to 62mph (5.7 now for the V6 and 5.5 for the V6 S compared to 5.3 and 4.9 before). Economy also suffers, with the V6 manual rated at 28.8mpg (33.6 with the auto) and the S falling to the same figure from 32.9mpg. It says something of how well suited modern autos are to emissions tests that the manual F-Types officially emit more than 30g/km extra. The V6 goes from 199g/km to 234, the S from 203g/km to 234g/km as well. But it'll be worth it, right?

Cheerio V8 S convertible, hello V8 R!
Cheerio V8 S convertible, hello V8 R!
It hopefully says something of the manual's talents that development boss Russ Varney said he only got out of that car when offered a V8 R all-wheel drive. Fingers crossed. All convertible and coupe models bar the base V6 will be available with all-wheel drive, which carries an additional 80kg over the RWD equivalent as well as a £4,850 price premium.

The all-wheel drive F-Types use similar technology to that already seen in the XF and XJ in other markets. As an on-demand system, the car remains rear-drive until slip is detected. Jaguar states the aim is to 'maintain the inherent agility and precision of the F-Type... while delivering the limit traction and handling benefits that torque on demand offers'.

The distribution of torque is controlled by Jaguar's Intelligent Driveline Dynamics (IDD), a new system designed in house. It will also manage the influence of the active differential in the V8 models, the DSC and torque vectoring by braking. That latter technology, introduced on the F-Type R coupe, will now be an option on all models. For the all-wheel drive cars, Jaguar fits 10 per cent stiffer springs and recalibrated dampers. The front control arm bushes are stiffer also.

Obviously this is AWD. There's no smoke
Obviously this is AWD. There's no smoke
The easiest ways to spot an F-Type AWD? Look for the badges as well as a different bonnet a deeper power bulge and new vents. 'Volution' 19-inch wheels are unique to the V6S AWD, represented here by the dark purple car.

The white convertible is yet another notable new F-Type. It's the V8 R, replacing the V8 S and with the same 550hp as the coupe. It costs £92,285 or £97,135 with all-wheel drive. The bodykit you see here though is the optional Sport Design Pack. Phew. Perhaps of more interest on the extras list will be the carbon roof now offered on the coupe.

F-Type aficionados will have spotted lower CO2 figures listed above, directly attributable to the introduction of electric power steering. It saves 4g/km plus, says Jaguar, 'sets the benchmark for feel and response'. The technology is now considered 'sufficiently mature' for Jaguar to replace hydraulic steering with EPAS. Worryingly there are phrases such as 'tuning potential ' and 'control algorithms' around the new steering system but Jaguar is confident that it can deliver. Research work began on electric steering in 2008 so you would hope Jaguar can get it right and replace a well-regarded hydraulic system. However it does still seem a little sad that we'll never know what a manual F-Type with hydraulic steering will be like.

Jag says AWD adds 80kg to kerbweight
Jag says AWD adds 80kg to kerbweight
One last thing for this very comprehensive refresh of Jaguar's sports car. The infotainment has been revised to include Jaguar's new 'InControl Touch' system with updated screen graphics and faster nav. Leaving aside the manual hooligan excitement for a second, a more modern interior interface is something the F-Type could always have used and therefore InControl is really significant. There are a range of Apple and Android compatible apps, improved touchscreen response and text-to-voice functionality. Furthermore, an InControl smartphone app will allow you to check things like the car's fuel level and even remote start it from your phone. Y'know, just in case your mates aren't interested in manual gearboxes.

The 2016 model year F-Types will go on sale in the spring with prices to be confirmed soon. We will aim to drive one just as soon as is humanly possible!

 

 









   
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IMI A

Original Poster:

9,997 posts

231 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Good news. If they had made this as a 2+2 it would have been even more of a success

Matt UK

18,084 posts

230 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Wow, a lot of development coming to market - they are spending.

I love the idea of a manual V6S. Don't think they'll sell many though, probably about 27. Then it will fall off the options list in the Gen2.

Which will make it difficult to find a used one in 5 years (and then they'll go up in value like all the best manual cars currently are) irked

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Gearknob looks like something from the BL parts bin. Otherwise very positive, but why not manual with the V8? The ZF box is up to the task.

hondansx

4,700 posts

255 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Surely the XK will be the 2+2? Plus, let's remember what the E Type looked like as a 2+2!

Jaguar are clearly listening. Just watch as they sell about 5 manuals and then discontinue it biggrin

Davey S2

13,394 posts

284 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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I'm a manual fan but in a car like this I'd rather paddles.

Manuals suit small chuckable cars rather than big Gt's IMO.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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V6S with a stick and 3 pedals officially jumps up my lottery list, sounds lovely. biggrin

I'd be interested to hear a review, see if the ePAS has spoilt the steering.

f328nvl

507 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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So three days after I buy a manual V12 Vantage Roadster, Jaguar finally make a manual F Type. I could have kept the kidney/child/Ferrari I sold to finance the V12VR and had an F type, which with a manual gearbox must be a car, worthy of Norm Dewiss...

Ho hum.

Edited by jeremyc on Wednesday 19th November 18:00

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Surprised they will only offer the manual with the V6.

Contrary to popular belief the US is the worlds biggest market for manual sports cars, and we all know they love a V8 (especially a British one ;-) )

The V8 R coupe, with manual would be sweet.

LotusOmega375D

9,392 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Manual sounds great, but I could also only buy a 2+2.

Can't believe they'll be a facelifted F-Type on the market by the Spring. Doesn't seem 5 minutes since they launched the original.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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f328nvl said:
So three days after I buy a manual V12 Vantage Roadster, Jaguar finally make a manual F Type. I could have kept the kidney/child/Ferrari I sold to finance the V12VR and had an F type, which with a manual gearbox must be a car, worthy of Norm Hewitt...

http://www.honestjg.com/2014/03/f-type-jaguar-30s....

Ho hum.
Come on, a V12VR with a manual is at least 6 cylinders better than the F-type, not to mention the cool of owning what is probably one of the last V12 Astons.

Rammy76

1,054 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Can the manual ZF gearbox not handle the V8's output?

The V6 is a nice engine but a manual V8 would do it for me.

f328nvl

507 posts

248 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Krikkit said:
Come on, a V12VR with a manual is at least 6 cylinders better than the F-type, not to mention the cool of owning what is probably one of the last V12 Astons.
It was my good kidney/ only child / Ferrari 355 Spider!

iwantcheese5

76 posts

157 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Zod said:
Gearknob looks like something from the BL parts bin. Otherwise very positive, but why not manual with the V8? The ZF box is up to the task.
The ZF box can "only" handle 600Nm, the V8 produces 625Nm (680Nm for the R). Sourced from the ZF website: http://www.zf.com/corporate/en/products/product_ra...

0llie

3,174 posts

226 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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V6 S Coupe with a manual gearbox sounds just about perfect cloud9


KTF

10,696 posts

180 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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The gear lever and surround looks like an afterthought - maybe because it is?

Given the choice I would still buy the auto.

andyps

7,819 posts

312 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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I've only one issue with this - why is it the 2016MY versions when we are currently in 2014 and the cars will be available in early 2015. As bad as the way magazines have got two months ahead of themselves and makes it pointless naming.

Otherwise, a manual F-Type sounds great, hope lots of people actually do buy one!

matrignano

4,701 posts

240 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Why the bonnet bulge on the AWD models?
Is it because the engine had to sit higher up to accommodate the front diff?

That higher CoG, plus extra 80kg, can't be good for handling and efficiency...

KTF

10,696 posts

180 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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matrignano said:
Why the bonnet bulge on the AWD models?
Is it because the engine had to sit higher up to accommodate the front diff?
Yes

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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KTF said:
matrignano said:
Why the bonnet bulge on the AWD models?
Is it because the engine had to sit higher up to accommodate the front diff?
Yes
Is that an informed definite "Yes" or a guestimated "Yes" ???

It also looks styling orientated as part of the MY16 facelift. I think it looks good, a power bulge!!

waremark

3,296 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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0 to 100 kph up from 4.9 to 5.5 for the manual V6S, and more fuel and CO2 - and this is by comparison with a proper auto, not a dual clutch. It is quite a high price to pay for the satisfaction of a manual. But I would be considering a manual V6S coupe if I had not bought an Aston V12V.