Why no Motorshow?
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wildcat45

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8,160 posts

219 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I was at he NEC last weekend at the classic car show. It was great, bigger I think than the Motorshows of old.

Last time I was at the NEC was for the 1998 Motorshow where they launched the S-Type Jag and the Rover 75.

Going home on the train we were musing about the fact there are no motorshows anymore. Four guys aged from early. 30 s to early 60s, all looking to replace current cars with new ones on the next few months/years (two of us have fun cars too)

I read recently, maybe on here that 2014 was the biggest year for UK motor manufacturing since 1972. Paris, Frankfurt Geeva all have motor shows, as do other cities across the globe.

So what went wrong? From wiki I see 2008 was the last serious attempt which let's face of it was in the recession.

But JLR, are doing well, as is Nissan and a host of otther firms.

There's plenty of interest in new cars here on PH and the crowds at the NEC we're not all classic car owners. I guess most there would have turned out for a new car show too.

So why no motor show?


Truckosaurus

13,277 posts

314 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Manufacturers didn't want to launch anything at a Birmingham show and London only has the Excel centre which isn't especially big and a pain in the rear to get to (either by car or public transport).

ecsrobin

18,673 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I remember going to my first and last motor show at the NEC and ford had recreated Tracy island from thunderbirds. It was amazing!!

I'm not sure why it's died a death but Goodwood has tried to bring back a motor show albeit in a different format each year the "moving motorshow"

Meoricin

2,880 posts

199 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Hasn't Goodwood sort of absorbed the old motorshow bits?

Blakewater

4,554 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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When people are choosing cars nowadays they're very clued up through Internet research. They've looked at images of all the new models and read all about them long before any actual cars have been built and put on show. They then download the brochures, build a car to their preferred spec on the configurator and choose the finance deal they want. They pretty much know what they want before they set foot in a showroom so there isn't the need to invest in motor shows that there used to be. For those of us who just like looking at cars, even if we don't intend to buy them, it's disappointing but it's not financially worthwhile for car manufacturers to pay for a playground for us.

va1o

16,117 posts

237 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Meoricin said:
Hasn't Goodwood sort of absorbed the old motorshow bits?
That's what I thought, the moving motorshow at the goodwood fos is getting bigger every year

morgrp

4,128 posts

228 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I loved the old motor shows - Earls Court especially, First went as a child in the mid eighties and loved it ever since. I used to manage to blag passes to the "Audi Lounge" which was like a stty VIP area - Great times, I'd def go again if there was one - I am thinking of taking the plunge and having a little euro road trip to Geneva one year

Edited by morgrp on Sunday 23 November 19:39

Blayney

2,949 posts

216 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I went to my first when I was 9. 1998 in the NEC. I went every year until it ended in 2008. I bought the Twingo basically off the back of sitting in the RS version at the 2008 motorshow. I wish there was still a motorshow. I went to the Geneva show this year though - it's really easy to do and not too expensive if you do it all in one day. Didn't feel any bigger or better than the British motorshow to me. Saying that a lot of manufacturers had pulled out of the British show in the end. I don't think Mercedes were there, possibly BMW or Audi as well. Big companies to lose.

Monkeylegend

29,403 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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wildcat45 said:
I read recently, maybe on here that 2014 was the biggest year for UK motor manufacturing since 1972.
Record new car sales, why bother with the expense of a motor show.

Erudite geezer

576 posts

151 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Truckosaurus said:
Manufacturers didn't want to launch anything at a Birmingham show.....
That is frankly a stupid and snobbish attitude.

A lot of the world's premier motor shows are not in capital cities:

Geneva
Frankfurt
Los Angeles
New York
Shangai


LotusOmega375D

9,392 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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My Dad took me to a couple of NEC shows in the 1980s. The first one included my one and only view of the show-stopping Aston Martin Bulldog: the crowds were 10 deep around the AM stand. That car looked like a vision of the future to everyone there: how wrong we were! Sorry William Towns but your design looks awful nowadays.

Other highlights of visits included the 174mph Ford Transit Supervan 2 and my Dad took a shine to the Lancia Thema 8.32 with its space-age retractable rear wing: now that did catch on.

I also liked to wander round the commercial vehicle Halls to see which truck had the biggest tyres!

I guess the lack of a meaningful show to attend nowadays may reduce the younger generation's interest in vehicles.

thecremeegg

2,099 posts

233 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Erudite geezer said:
That is frankly a stupid and snobbish attitude.

A lot of the world's premier motor shows are not in capital cities:

Geneva
Frankfurt
Los Angeles
New York
Shangai
Add Birmingham to that list then look at it and compare it with the other cities tongue out

va1o

16,117 posts

237 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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thecremeegg said:
Add Birmingham to that list then look at it and compare it with the other cities tongue out
hehe

cologne2792

2,151 posts

156 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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I hate to sound luddite but cars in general seem to be much of a muchness.
Looks and style are now determined by legislation rather than artistic interpretation.
Conformity to safety and co2 production stifles creativity.
Even Ferraris aren't all red !
If you're looking to buy something new then you probably already have a good idea of what you like and a test drive is far cheaper for a marque than a stand at the NEC.
Much prefer the Classic NEC Show personally.

cobra kid

5,595 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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This was my 3rd classic car show in a row. To be honest, I won't be back next year. Nothing much different to be honest.

EmptyCinema

32 posts

148 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Good riddance; I'm still traumatised from getting locked in the back of a Favorit estate on the Skoda stand at the NEC back in the early 90's.