Forward opening bonnets...
Forward opening bonnets...
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wildcat45

Original Poster:

8,160 posts

219 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Or hoods if you are American.

No cars seem to have them these days. The thread with the broken down Rolls god me wondering, is there a reason why car makers stopped the practice?

I'm guessing some sort of crash safety regs.


Baryonyx

18,290 posts

189 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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I don't know why or how crash safety would affect them. I have one on my XJ8, at least I don't have to worry about it blowing open in the wind, Renault Clio style.

JordanTurbo

937 posts

171 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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F type opens forwards.


berlintaxi

8,535 posts

203 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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XK8 opens forward, must be a Jaguar thing.

DrDoofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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I suppose the bulkhead is a stronger place to hinge the heavy bonnet?

DrDoofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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I suppose the bulkhead is a stronger place to hinge the heavy bonnet?

magooagain

13,590 posts

200 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Our Renault Kangoo is the same. PITA to work on! I had to remove it to do a rad change last week.

Triumph Man

9,623 posts

198 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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My BMW E34 has a forward hinged bonnet, with a natty opening mechanism in as much as gas struts push it up and forwards when the handle is pulled. This is hilarious when my GF tries to open the bonnet as she then thinks it's rear hinged.

This mechanism doesn't stop the bd thing falling on my head when the wind blows...

SteveC72

155 posts

175 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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The mk II Fiesta opened forward.

In the 80s my local Ford dealership made a mock up video of the mechanics trying to open it from the front then someone opening it properly and bashing the other guys on the head. They sent it to the Jeremy Beadle program and IIRC it got shown.

swisstoni

24,108 posts

309 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Having had a MkII Cortina bonnet conform itself neatly to the shape of the windscreen and roof when it wasn't latched properly I'd imagine that a front hinge bonnet is a safer setup.

B'stard Child

31,142 posts

276 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Not a forward opening comment but one thing I really love about Mercs is that you can get the bonnet up to vertical - makes working in the engine bay so easy

hman

7,497 posts

224 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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working on a car with a forward hinged bonnet is a pain though.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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hman said:
working on a car with a forward hinged bonnet is a pain though.
"Proper" Saab 900. Not only does the bonnet hinge far enough forward that it isn't in the way for very much at all (I did the HG in mine with the bonnet on), but removing two small bolts allows the entire bonnet to be lifted off without losing the adjustment.


You can just see the head of one of the bolts on the outside of the hinge, just above the headlight.

Leins

10,483 posts

178 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Great thread, huge fan of these types of bonnets, for no reason other than I think they look pretty nifty



Triumph Man said:
My BMW E34 has a forward hinged bonnet, with a natty opening mechanism in as much as gas struts push it up and forwards when the handle is pulled. This is hilarious when my GF tries to open the bonnet as she then thinks it's rear hinged.

This mechanism doesn't stop the bd thing falling on my head when the wind blows...
Yep, my E34 tried to decapitate me last summer at a show too. I still have to love it though biggrin


I have to admit though that the BMW mechanisms are good, but the Saab 900 one is a work of art

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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swisstoni said:
Having had a MkII Cortina bonnet conform itself neatly to the shape of the windscreen and roof when it wasn't latched properly I'd imagine that a front hinge bonnet is a safer setup.
Depends. Might be interesting when the catch is not secure and a bit of heavy braking is called for. Not that I have ever done that......

liner33

10,861 posts

232 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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DrDoofenshmirtz said:
I suppose the bulkhead is a stronger place to hinge the heavy bonnet?
Cant remember the last time I saw a bonnet hinge on a bulkhead , usually on the top of the inner wing

confused_buyer

7,130 posts

211 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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I think the reason was pedestrian safety in that having solid things (i.e. big heavy hinges) under the leading edge of the bonnet is now illegal.

The F-Type has a pyrotechnic bonnet which pops up on impact which presumably allows it to open this way.

Headlamp wipers were banned for the same reasons.

Leins

10,483 posts

178 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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^^^ Yes, the F-Type is bang up to date

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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It's also quite hard to get to bits at the front when you're accesing it from the side for repairs etc

NiceCupOfTea

25,595 posts

281 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
hman said:
working on a car with a forward hinged bonnet is a pain though.
"Proper" Saab 900. Not only does the bonnet hinge far enough forward that it isn't in the way for very much at all (I did the HG in mine with the bonnet on), but removing two small bolts allows the entire bonnet to be lifted off without losing the adjustment.


You can just see the head of one of the bolts on the outside of the hinge, just above the headlight.
This, they are an absolute work of art.