Motorsport venue noise complaint waiver for new home owners.
Motorsport venue noise complaint waiver for new home owners.
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High flier

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1,089 posts

207 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Taken from the petition page:

introduce mandatory noise complaint waiver for anyone who buys or rents a property close to motorsport venue

Responsible department: Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs


There are innumerate cases of people knowingly moving within close proximity of motorsport venues, only to try to have their planning permission revoked or have them closed completely when they take exception to the noise.

It is extremely detrimental to the UK's motorsport heritage, when all the motorsport venues start disappearing. Motorsport and the associated mechanical/engineering business is a key British export and second to none in the world of motorsports.

As such, anyone who wishes to buy or rent a property within a determined distance of a motorsport venue should have to read and sign legislature that waives their right to complain about the noise from the nearby venue. If they do not wish to be bothered by something that was a fixture of the community long before they arrived, they should not move there in the first place.

Sign up here if you agree!

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/72458

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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signed

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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High flier said:
There are innumerate cases
Why DO people try to use big words they don't understand?

danjama

5,728 posts

172 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Signed and I wish they would expand to include airfields/airports etc.

p1esk

4,914 posts

226 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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I've no time for people who buy a property near to an existing noise source and then complain about the noise, but I think they may have a legitimate complaint if the noise producers increase their level of activity significantly.

Wasn't that part of the problem around Mallory Park?

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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p1esk said:
I've no time for people who buy a property near to an existing noise source and then complain about the noise, but I think they may have a legitimate complaint if the noise producers increase their level of activity significantly.

Wasn't that part of the problem around Mallory Park?
Yes, the problem with Mallory was that the organisers consistently flouted a fairly reasonable agreement with the residents and the council. They claimed it "wasn't commercially viable" to operate to the agreement, as if that gave them some excuse to break it. I am really strongly against stupid NIMBYism like buying properties near huge noise sources then complaining, but it's never acceptable to break mutual agreements like that.

The idea of prohibiting any sort of noise complaint is daft, because we couldn't expect anyone to put up with properly noisy days (think Formula 1 V10 volume) on a regular basis, but I do think there are deep flaws in the way any vocal resident can make a complaint about noise which you could (and should) reasonably expect. I've signed this petition in the hope that it makes it to debate, because while its wording is far too strong, at least it may provoke some change to the system.

I'm thinking in particular of the spectacularly moronic councillor who single-handedly got the Britcar 24hr race at Silverstone axed. He'd only just moved there and seemed unable to comprehend the amount of money it brought his constituency. I've been there, and it's not even that noisy an event. I can't, for example, imagine many local French complaints against Le Mans gaining much traction..

p1esk

4,914 posts

226 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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McSam said:
p1esk said:
I've no time for people who buy a property near to an existing noise source and then complain about the noise, but I think they may have a legitimate complaint if the noise producers increase their level of activity significantly.

Wasn't that part of the problem around Mallory Park?
Yes, the problem with Mallory was that the organisers consistently flouted a fairly reasonable agreement with the residents and the council. They claimed it "wasn't commercially viable" to operate to the agreement, as if that gave them some excuse to break it. I am really strongly against stupid NIMBYism like buying properties near huge noise sources then complaining, but it's never acceptable to break mutual agreements like that.

The idea of prohibiting any sort of noise complaint is daft, because we couldn't expect anyone to put up with properly noisy days (think Formula 1 V10 volume) on a regular basis, but I do think there are deep flaws in the way any vocal resident can make a complaint about noise which you could (and should) reasonably expect. I've signed this petition in the hope that it makes it to debate, because while its wording is far too strong, at least it may provoke some change to the system.

I'm thinking in particular of the spectacularly moronic councillor who single-handedly got the Britcar 24hr race at Silverstone axed. He'd only just moved there and seemed unable to comprehend the amount of money it brought his constituency. I've been there, and it's not even that noisy an event. I can't, for example, imagine many local French complaints against Le Mans gaining much traction..
Thank you, that is how I recall the Mallory Park situation. If they are unable to remain viable without breaking the agreement, they need to try and reach a new agreement, which I hope they will be able to do if it isn't too late; otherwise I'm afraid it's their hard luck. Things do change, so they have to find a new way of surviving, if they can.

HarryW

16,044 posts

299 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Not to dissimilar to buying a house on a main road for say 80% of the going rate for a quieter street and then complain about the traffic and canvas for bypass....good way to make a quick profit in both cases. Not sure the epetition is been fully thought through tbh...

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

200 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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High flier said:
Taken from the petition page:

introduce mandatory noise complaint waiver for anyone who buys or rents a property close to motorsport venue

Responsible department: Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs


There are innumerate cases of people knowingly moving within close proximity of motorsport venues, only to try to have their planning permission revoked or have them closed completely when they take exception to the noise.

It is extremely detrimental to the UK's motorsport heritage, when all the motorsport venues start disappearing. Motorsport and the associated mechanical/engineering business is a key British export and second to none in the world of motorsports.

As such, anyone who wishes to buy or rent a property within a determined distance of a motorsport venue should have to read and sign legislature that waives their right to complain about the noise from the nearby venue. If they do not wish to be bothered by something that was a fixture of the community long before they arrived, they should not move there in the first place.

Sign up here if you agree!

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/72458
Pointless. The idea is a non-starter and an affront to natural justice and contrary to case law.

thelawnet

1,539 posts

185 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Doesn't make sense, if when you move in a venue does go kart racing three days a year, and then that changes so there are international motor racing events attracting hundreds of thousands of people, then a waiver doesn't seem fair does it?

Normally there is a level with the planning and it shouldn't be exceeded,