£15bn to be spent on UK roads
£15bn to be spent on UK roads
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FussyFez

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972 posts

206 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30269231

Among the major plans are:
North West: Improving links to the Port of Liverpool
North West and Yorkshire: Completing the "smart" lane on the M62 from Manchester to Leeds
North East: £290m to make the A1 dual carriageway all the way from London to Ellingham, 25 miles from the Scottish border
Midlands: Improving the M42 to the east of Birmingham
East: £300m to upgrade the east-west connection to Norfolk, by making sections of the A47 dual carriageway and improving its connections to the A1 and A11
South West: £2bn to make the entire A303 and A358 to the region dual carriageway, including a tunnel at Stonehenge
London and South East: Improving one-third of the junctions on the M25, £350m of improvements to the A27 along the south coast

trevt

131 posts

176 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Is there an election looming?

Apart from the cynicism good news, now let's hope there is funding for local roads rather than just the high profile headline catchers

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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The one I disagree with is Stone henge - I go past there probably 3-4 times a year always enjoy seeing it (even though its small).

Jasandjules

72,622 posts

259 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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trevt said:
Is there an election looming?
By coincidence, that was my first thought when I read the headline...

Baryonyx

18,290 posts

189 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Welshbeef said:
The one I disagree with is Stone henge - I go past there probably 3-4 times a year always enjoy seeing it (even though its small).
I'm sure the people who drive past it every day dont love sitting in the traffic jams around it.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Baryonyx said:
I'm sure the people who drive past it every day dont love sitting in the traffic jams around it.
Try Reading which has 65,000 crossings of the bridges every day and they are taking one out of action for a year for repairs

scorcher

4,129 posts

264 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Baryonyx said:
Welshbeef said:
The one I disagree with is Stone henge - I go past there probably 3-4 times a year always enjoy seeing it (even though its small).
I'm sure the people who drive past it every day dont love sitting in the traffic jams around it.
Tunnel is meant to be 1.8miles or so long. Soon be queues once someone crashes in there or there's a lorry fire. Be good for the tunnel runners though!

GetCarter

31,293 posts

309 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Jasandjules said:
trevt said:
Is there an election looming?
By coincidence, that was my first thought when I read the headline...
Pathetic electioneering ... They just lie to get your votes.

Monty Python

4,813 posts

227 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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So that's about 10 potholes they'll get around to fixing.

Jasandjules

72,622 posts

259 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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GetCarter said:
Pathetic electioneering ... They just lie to get your votes.
Oh this bunch of c**ks are not getting my votes. Trust fund Ruperts who are responsible for the death of my grandfather can go to hell and they can shove their AGW lies up their rectums whilst they are at it.

italianjob1275

603 posts

176 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Bloody smart motorways again! Can somebody explain how slowing traffic down to 40mph then speeding it up to 60 only to drop it to 40 on the next gantry aids smooth traffic flow?

Tunnel past Stonehenge seems pointless, why not just reroute the road slightly?

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

167 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Baryonyx said:
I'm sure the people who drive past it every day dont love sitting in the traffic jams around it.
The A303 is only really bad in the summer holidays. If the country is skint then spending money putting existing roads underground seems rather wasteful.

haggishunter

1,315 posts

273 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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It's to be spent on English roads not UK roads.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

167 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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GetCarter said:
Pathetic electioneering ... They just lie to get your votes.
Yes - Tories are in no position to be offering tax cuts to win votes as per usual, so they have come up with this.

TA14

14,332 posts

288 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Jasandjules said:
trevt said:
Is there an election looming?
By coincidence, that was my first thought when I read the headline...
No, no, I'm sure that the tunnel under the pennines to link Manchester and Sheffield will get built smile

Antony Moxey

10,745 posts

249 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Complete waste of money. Until drivers are educated on how to use the roads properly we'll never get rid of the ridiculous congestion on our roads typically caused by MLMs in effect reducing a three lane motorway to a one lane one as an example. Driving standards in this country are appalling and until that's addressed you can bung any amount of money at improving the road network and it won't make the slightest bit of difference

caiss4

1,946 posts

227 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Welshbeef said:
The one I disagree with is Stone henge - I go past there probably 3-4 times a year always enjoy seeing it (even though its small).
If you live in the area then contemplating the A303 between March and September and school holidays in between is just suicide. Even last night I had to go to Salisbury and the traffic was queueing London-bound past the rocks.

Net result is all the local traffic uses rat-runs (plus a lot of outsiders who rely on their satnavs to redirect them as they turn off the A303).

It all got worse with the closure of of the A360 junction with the A303 at Stonehenge (even though that was a crap junction) with all traffic funnelled to a completely inadequate roundabout.

I find it so bizarre that this great heritage site is in full view from a major A-road and yet people pay £15 to go to a visitor centre that's difficult to get to from London and then be bussed back down the old A360 to walk around.

A tunnel was proposed 30 years ago. It really should have been done then; payback would have been achieved by now.

This is one of my longest posts for ages so that should show how emotive the subject is. If you live in this area then you become very sensitive to major route access. Without easy access to the A303 we're dependent on the M4 and that's 50 minutes away at best.

I have no doubt that more people would be more satisfied if the Stonehenge bottleneck was removed by a tunnel than ever having the Channel Tunnel.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

167 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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caiss4 said:
It all got worse with the closure of of the A360 junction with the A303 at Stonehenge (even though that was a crap junction) with all traffic funnelled to a completely inadequate roundabout.
This is the problem. I used to drive from London to Somerset regularly and were very rarely queues by The Henge, closing the A360 recently has caused tons of grief.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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MarshPhantom said:
Yes - Tories are in no position to be offering tax cuts to win votes as per usual, so they have come up with this.
To be fair they announced this £15b two years ago today was simply confirming which roads would be impacted.


As per usual? You do remember the 1997 economy in rude health and booming then labour killed it when the Tories took over with thatcher the UK had just received IMF bailout following the 3 day week millions out of work, labour shutting more coal mines than anyone in history. Hmm


Oh and say that to any staunch labour supporter and they will come out with its the "vile party" or not even be possible to have a reasoned discussion with.

robinessex

12,024 posts

211 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Announcing the plan, Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin said roads were "key to our nation's prosperity" and had suffered from under-investment for too long.

"Today I am setting out the biggest, boldest and most far-reaching roads programme for decades. It will dramatically improve our road network and unlock Britain's economic potential," he said.

Chancellor George Osborne said it would "transform some of the country's most important strategic routes".


So, after years of not spending on roads, they now admit they got it wrong. So start with the bloody pot holes. And scrap that stupid HS2 and HS3 and really get the roads sorted. And no tolls on the dartford crossing.