Suzuki Swift vs RS 133

[stedaley]

Yet another question set from myself!!

After being moved away from the idea of a BMW and other larger cars and hot hatches being expensive for insurance!!

So two have popped up,

Suzuki sport and the RS133 twingo,

Thoughts and experience on these two at all? they are affordable and id pay that bit extra to get something worth keeping!!

[Riknos]

Go drive both see which you prefer? I wouldn't be able to pick between the two personally.

The Twingo sounds fun based on Top gear, but I'd rather buy Japanese over French any day of the week, I see rave reviews of swifts and all their owners seem to love them!

[BricktopST205]

My friend has the Twingo 133 with the cup pack. Had it for 3 years now. Had nothing but trouble with it. It is very annoying as well. Had to remove scuttle just to change spark plugs..... O2 sensors failing and his only has thirty odd thousand on the clock. His previous car was a Suzuki Ignis Sport which he wishes he kept now.

[Quhet]

I'd go for the Suzuki. THey're reliable, look smart and are a bit bigger than the twingo so more practical

[Axionknight]

My girlfriend had one of the later Swift Sports, good little car, it handled well and had a brisk turn of speed - enough to make it properly fun to punt down a b-road. On top of that it was cheap to run/maintain and we never had any problems with it.

The only fly in the ointment was the seating position which was too high for my liking (I'm 5 foot 9" so not overly tall), it made me feel as if I was on the car, and not in it.

I'd recommend checking one out, can't speak for the Twingo though, I've never driven one.

[TheAngryDog]

Mrs AngryDog has a Twingo 133. Its the non Cup pack one - I'd hate to drive a Cup pack one as the suspension is VERY hard. Small bumps feel like mountains. Its a nippy little thing, but I wouldn't call it hot. It is small inside. I'm 5'10 and I while I can drive it with the seat fully back, my legs are not as straight as I'd like them to be. How JC got in it and drove it I do not know!

Its got cruise control, air con, speed limiter (cool little feature, you set your speed and you can go below it, but not over it - perfect for 50mph roadworks with Specs camera's) and they are a decent looking little thing. Hers does have the 17" Cup wheels in black (red car) which look nice.

All in all, I like it. 5th is quite short, 70mph is around 3500RPM (my M5 in 6th is 2400RPM) and its averaged 36mpg since she has had it (according the obc).

I haven't really chucked it about yet, she hasn't let me

[scarble]

Anyone else getting deja vu?

[TheAngryDog]

scarble said:

Anyone else getting deja vu?

no? Should we? (genuine question).

Just seen - yes, the 3rd "what car" from the OP in no time at all.

Edited by TheAngryDog on Tuesday 2nd December 09:04

[scarble]

I'm sure we've had at least an Colt or 133 thread before too?
Ok maybe not.. but the Swift and the 133 always come up in the same "what a/b segment warm hatch" threads

[JG93]

My brother has a 133 cup FF and my mate had a swift so driven both, personally preferred the 133 to drive

[R2T2]

If you're looking at a Swift and a Renaultsport 133. Have you considered a Grande Punto T-Jet?

120hp. Turbocharged, easily tuneable with a bigger turbo which is a bolt on.
Cheap to insure. Just renewed mine, 20, 2 years no claims with business miles, £700.

bought a 58 plate in march this year for £4250, ended up paying 3k to swap. Great car. Appreciates premium tyres. Munched through the set of linglong ditch-finders it came on in 5000 miles. Although, I may have not have helped that...

[stedaley]

TheAngryDog said:

Mrs AngryDog has a Twingo 133. Its the non Cup pack one - I'd hate to drive a Cup pack one as the suspension is VERY hard. Small bumps feel like mountains. Its a nippy little thing, but I wouldn't call it hot. It is small inside. I'm 5'10 and I while I can drive it with the seat fully back, my legs are not as straight as I'd like them to be. How JC got in it and drove it I do not know!

Its got cruise control, air con, speed limiter (cool little feature, you set your speed and you can go below it, but not over it - perfect for 50mph roadworks with Specs camera's) and they are a decent looking little thing. Hers does have the 17" Cup wheels in black (red car) which look nice.

All in all, I like it. 5th is quite short, 70mph is around 3500RPM (my M5 in 6th is 2400RPM) and its averaged 36mpg since she has had it (according the obc).

I haven't really chucked it about yet, she hasn't let me

I have been searching the past couple of days as im in need of a car!!
and i see, the none cup pack is very hard too?

[stedaley]

Axionknight said:

My girlfriend had one of the later Swift Sports, good little car, it handled well and had a brisk turn of speed - enough to make it properly fun to punt down a b-road. On top of that it was cheap to run/maintain and we never had any problems with it.

The only fly in the ointment was the seating position which was too high for my liking (I'm 5 foot 9" so not overly tall), it made me feel as if I was on the car, and not in it.

I'd recommend checking one out, can't speak for the Twingo though, I've never driven one.

I was going to say, im 6ft 1 and surely would fit easily in it?

[iloveboost]

R2T2 said:

If you're looking at a Swift and a Renaultsport 133. Have you considered a Grande Punto T-Jet?

120hp. Turbocharged, easily tuneable with a bigger turbo which is a bolt on.
Cheap to insure. Just renewed mine, 20, 2 years no claims with business miles, £700.

bought a 58 plate in march this year for £4250, ended up paying 3k to swap. Great car. Appreciates premium tyres. Munched through the set of linglong ditch-finders it came on in 5000 miles. Although, I may have not have helped that...

I agree as they are relatively cheap to buy, cheap to insure and they look good. Also the torque makes it feel like a non-turbo 1.8 and it's got quite long gearing for the power so it's good on the motorway. The steering isn't fantastic, but it's a good first warm hatch. Not sure if the 'Evo' line up has a 'T-jet' engine anymore though, it may just be the 'Abarth' that gets it? That's if the OP is buying new not used.
I still think overall I'd prefer the new Swift Sport, but I've not driven one.

[TheAngryDog]

stedaley said:

TheAngryDog said:

Mrs AngryDog has a Twingo 133. Its the non Cup pack one - I'd hate to drive a Cup pack one as the suspension is VERY hard. Small bumps feel like mountains. Its a nippy little thing, but I wouldn't call it hot. It is small inside. I'm 5'10 and I while I can drive it with the seat fully back, my legs are not as straight as I'd like them to be. How JC got in it and drove it I do not know!

Its got cruise control, air con, speed limiter (cool little feature, you set your speed and you can go below it, but not over it - perfect for 50mph roadworks with Specs camera's) and they are a decent looking little thing. Hers does have the 17" Cup wheels in black (red car) which look nice.

All in all, I like it. 5th is quite short, 70mph is around 3500RPM (my M5 in 6th is 2400RPM) and its averaged 36mpg since she has had it (according the obc).

I haven't really chucked it about yet, she hasn't let me

I have been searching the past couple of days as im in need of a car!!
and i see, the none cup pack is very hard too?

Well put it this way - I can hit various bumps in the road at normal speeds in my M5. I have to slow down quite a bit in hers otherwise it almost rattles my fillings out.

[VF7]

I always fancied a Twingo RS Gordini. I hace driven a Gordini 100 and I quite liked it.
Always have been a fan of the Swift, but never wanted one.
In the end I got a Lupo GTI which I really can't recommend enough.
Great little car and compared to the twingo it feels solid, more serious/mature if you know what I mean. Well, it's a german car afterall.

[Swanny87]

iloveboost said:

I agree as they are relatively cheap to buy, cheap to insure and they look good. Also the torque makes it feel like a non-turbo 1.8 and it's got quite long gearing for the power so it's good on the motorway. The steering isn't fantastic, but it's a good first warm hatch. Not sure if the 'Evo' line up has a 'T-jet' engine anymore though, it may just be the 'Abarth' that gets it? That's if the OP is buying new not used.
I still think overall I'd prefer the new Swift Sport, but I've not driven one.

Yeah those cars have electrically assisted steering and while composed in the corners, you have to guess how much lock to put on to get you through. Literally no feedback whatsoever...

[Al U]

VF7 said:

In the end I got a Lupo GTI which I really can't recommend enough.

What this man said. They are totally different from the other models in the lupo range, you have to drive one to understand. Make sure it is a 6 speed. There is a reason they are holding their value well.

[caterhamboy]

Rent4ring suzuki swift.

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/home/new...

[DeaconFrost]

caterhamboy said:

Rent4ring suzuki swift.

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/home/new...

Impressive and a testament to the swifts build quality.