MY RETINAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[okie592]

Remain unbunrt.

[devnull]

Someone is bored in traffic.

[xRIEx]

A couple of weeks ago, travelling home up a couple of hundred miles of M1 with a stinking headache, in stationary traffic the brake lights from the car in front were seriously fking painful to look at. Usually not a problem, I agree, but that time they were just additional discomfort I could have really done without.

[BorkFactor]

Agreed, I always think people who claim to be "blinded" by brake lights and fog lights are over exaggerating.

Annoying, yes, but not blinding. And that is coming from someone who is quite sensitive to light!

[anonymous-user]

Annoying I agree. Wish people would use their damn handbrakes.

[.blue]

Agree - new Mercs and most "premium" cars have stupidly bright rear lights. A pain when you are in a low sports car.

[David87]

Nice. The brightest I've seen so far are the ones on the new BMW X5. They really are hard to miss, especially because they're wired up to the parking brake.

[Hub]

Minis are pretty bad for brightness!

[anonymous-user]

Just another angle whereby drivers of premium German brands project a "fk you" attitude on other road users.

[Matt..]

Is that an E class? They are so bright, I hate following them in traffic at night. I don't know any other cars that are so bad.

[anonymous-user]

Lol, here we go again!

[TheAngryDog]

Crossflow Kid said:

Just another angle whereby drivers of premium German brands project a "fk you" attitude on other road users.

Oh yes, because all 'premium German brand' drivers live just to say fk you at every opportunity.

Some of us use the hand brake when stationary.

[TheAngryDog]

andrewparker said:

Lol, here we go again!

I really do not understand all of the hatred of German cars on here. Jealousy?

[whoami]

Crossflow Kid said:

Just another angle whereby drivers of premium German brands project a "fk you" attitude on other road users.

[anonymous-user]

TheAngryDog said:

andrewparker said:

Lol, here we go again!

I really do not understand all of the hatred of German cars on here. Jealousy?

For me it's more to do with the lack of any sense of humour on the part of the drivers. It's like the nationality of the car rubs off on them.

[folos]

calm down, doris

[Spare tyre]

I find vag motors bad for putting their indicators inside a ring off brake light, so you can see if they are indicating when braking

[M4cruiser]

Just leave a bigger gap in front of you when you stop in a queue.

Also useful for when your brakes fail as you stop.

And to make it easier to pull round them when they break down.

And to see past them easier ("blocking angle" and all that).

[Tony33]

GravelMachineGun said:

Annoying I agree. Wish people would use their damn handbrakes.

What many people aren't aware of is that modern cars like the one in the picture have electronic handbrakes that automatically apply when stationary and keep the brake lights on.

VWs original system worked more like an old fashioned handbrake in a manual where the brake lights were off with the foot off the brake pedal and electronic handbrake applied. They were forced to pull this system from sale in the US after being faced with litigation that drivers were rear ended by not showing brake lights like previous auto held on the brake pedal and introduced the current system which seems to be in all markets and other manufacturers have done the same.

Unfortunately it seems to have coincided with a manufacturer battle to provide the brightest lights possible within regulations!

[Boosted LS1]

Tony33 said:

Unfortunately it seems to have coincided with a manufacturer battle to provide the brightest lights possible within regulations!

I think this is the problem. Some are brighter then fog lights. I've no idea how they can get away with it but clearly they do. It seems daft to me and anti-social.