Today's road carnage
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Looking at the final picture on that link, it looks like the car has been pushed under the lorry by the second lorry with blue cab. Amazing that someone has survived that. It looks like you would lose your head as you went under. Wow. Not that it matters but that doesnt look like a VW logo on those wheels which the article suggests. Toyota?
wow, you wouldn't want to bet on surviving that!
I'm amazed at how many people i see closely following large lorries, often with another large lorry directly behind them. It seems their imagination maybe isn't as vivid as mine, but perhaps showing them that ^^^ pic might do the trick in future......
I'm amazed at how many people i see closely following large lorries, often with another large lorry directly behind them. It seems their imagination maybe isn't as vivid as mine, but perhaps showing them that ^^^ pic might do the trick in future......
Max_Torque said:
wow, you wouldn't want to bet on surviving that!
I'm amazed at how many people i see closely following large lorries, often with another large lorry directly behind them. It seems their imagination maybe isn't as vivid as mine, but perhaps showing them that ^^^ pic might do the trick in future......
Specs monitored road works generally being the worst examples I see, lorries normally to blame.I'm amazed at how many people i see closely following large lorries, often with another large lorry directly behind them. It seems their imagination maybe isn't as vivid as mine, but perhaps showing them that ^^^ pic might do the trick in future......
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Hopefully the BBC haven't got their pics mixed up, looking at that I would expect some rather serious head injuries =(
oldaudi said:
Looking at the final picture on that link, it looks like the car has been pushed under the lorry by the second lorry with blue cab. Amazing that someone has survived that. It looks like you would lose your head as you went under. Wow. Not that it matters but that doesnt look like a VW logo on those wheels which the article suggests. Toyota?
Looks like what used to be an insignia ?Hopefully the BBC haven't got their pics mixed up, looking at that I would expect some rather serious head injuries =(
Edited by Jimmyarm on Tuesday 9th December 18:42
Lorries cross into the other carriageway on the M25
Now I along with 1000's of others put up with 2 years of road works on this section of the M25 Part of this work involved the centre barrier section being dug up, filled with concrete, and a supposedly inpenetrable concrete crash barrier put up between the two carriage ways. Yet it appears to have failed it's first test. Whilst stuck in the numerous jams that occured whilst this was being done, I passed the time watching this being built. And as far as I could ascertain, the middle road sectione was filled with concrete to ground level, and then a concrete wall built on top. As as anyone whose been involved with the construction of concrete structures will tell you, wet new concrete doesn't 'stick' to dry concrete it's placed on. So why, if this barrier was required to be inpenetrable, wasn's it cast as one piece, and include steel reinforcing. From the pictures, it looks as if it was pushed aside with comparative ease. A failure.
Now I along with 1000's of others put up with 2 years of road works on this section of the M25 Part of this work involved the centre barrier section being dug up, filled with concrete, and a supposedly inpenetrable concrete crash barrier put up between the two carriage ways. Yet it appears to have failed it's first test. Whilst stuck in the numerous jams that occured whilst this was being done, I passed the time watching this being built. And as far as I could ascertain, the middle road sectione was filled with concrete to ground level, and then a concrete wall built on top. As as anyone whose been involved with the construction of concrete structures will tell you, wet new concrete doesn't 'stick' to dry concrete it's placed on. So why, if this barrier was required to be inpenetrable, wasn's it cast as one piece, and include steel reinforcing. From the pictures, it looks as if it was pushed aside with comparative ease. A failure.
robinessex said:
Lorries cross into the other carriageway on the M25
Now I along with 1000's of others put up with 2 years of road works on this section of the M25 Part of this work involved the centre barrier section being dug up, filled with concrete, and a supposedly inpenetrable concrete crash barrier put up between the two carriage ways. Yet it appears to have failed it's first test. Whilst stuck in the numerous jams that occured whilst this was being done, I passed the time watching this being built. And as far as I could ascertain, the middle road sectione was filled with concrete to ground level, and then a concrete wall built on top. As as anyone whose been involved with the construction of concrete structures will tell you, wet new concrete doesn't 'stick' to dry concrete it's placed on. So why, if this barrier was required to be inpenetrable, wasn's it cast as one piece, and include steel reinforcing. From the pictures, it looks as if it was pushed aside with comparative ease. A failure.
Its the two tensioned steel cables cast inside the wall that are supposed to stop vehicles from crossing the centre. But yes, it appears that they failed to stop an Artic.Now I along with 1000's of others put up with 2 years of road works on this section of the M25 Part of this work involved the centre barrier section being dug up, filled with concrete, and a supposedly inpenetrable concrete crash barrier put up between the two carriage ways. Yet it appears to have failed it's first test. Whilst stuck in the numerous jams that occured whilst this was being done, I passed the time watching this being built. And as far as I could ascertain, the middle road sectione was filled with concrete to ground level, and then a concrete wall built on top. As as anyone whose been involved with the construction of concrete structures will tell you, wet new concrete doesn't 'stick' to dry concrete it's placed on. So why, if this barrier was required to be inpenetrable, wasn's it cast as one piece, and include steel reinforcing. From the pictures, it looks as if it was pushed aside with comparative ease. A failure.
Max_Torque said:
It seems their imagination maybe isn't as vivid as mine, but perhaps showing them that ^^^ pic might do the trick in future......
I remember coming up behind a lorry without crash guards (was many years ago) and realising the end of the naked steel beam supporting the bed would be just right position to hit my head.Now being a tall person driving tall soft-roader style car - I can't help thinking I'd been much worse off in that situation.
I heard on the radio that the section around the M11 was closed. I drove through this on Sunday night to the airport and was somewhat surprised that for quite a few miles there was actually no central reservation in place. Just pillars where the barrier is to be mounted and a pile of broken concrete in the middle.
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