Driving Unisured. What Are The Chances Of Getting Caught?
Driving Unisured. What Are The Chances Of Getting Caught?
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Tannedbaldhead

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3,210 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Last year I drove a car for about six months uninsured whilst in a state of blissful ignorance. According to the TV cop reality programs you'd have thought I'd be tugged and the car would be crushed on my 1st outing thanks to the roads swarming with ANPR equipped Mitsubishis and Subarus. This doesn't seem to be the case. Was I incredibly lucky or is this par for the course?

ZX10R NIN

30,609 posts

155 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Tannedbaldhead said:
Last year I drove a car for about six months uninsured whilst in a state of blissful ignorance. According to the TV cop reality programs you'd have thought I'd be tugged and the car would be crushed on my 1st outing thanks to the roads swarming with ANPR equipped Mitsubishis and Subarus. This doesn't seem to be the case. Was I incredibly lucky or is this par for the course?
I think you were lucky as my M.O.T ran out at midnight, 3am pulled over lol they were fine but I'd say you got very lucky.

ambuletz

11,765 posts

211 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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One time I had my car mot'd on a Saturday late afternoon. All post offices closed so couldn't tax it. Drove it home that day and Sunday morning a prat dvla van drove by and clamped it.

fandango_c

1,993 posts

216 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ambuletz said:
One time I had my car mot'd on a Saturday late afternoon. All post offices closed so couldn't tax it. Drove it home that day and Sunday morning a prat dvla van drove by and clamped it.
Why didn't you tax the car before the MOT and before the previous tax had run out?
No need to call someone working for the DVLA a prat for clamping an untaxed car.

Leptons

5,493 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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fandango_c said:
Why didn't you tax the car before the MOT and before the previous tax had run out?
No need to call someone working for the DVLA a prat for clamping an untaxed car.
What a stupid question.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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It's all dependant on luck. If you don't see an ANPR equipped police car/van then your fine. If you do then your fked. The chance of being caught depends on where you drive and when. If you only drive at night in the highlands you stand a low chance of getting caught. If you drive down the M40 or M25 at rush hour you will be lucky to make it to the end of the day. But then you might be unluck in the highlands and pass an ANPR van and get caught, or very lucky and drive down the M40, round the M25 and back up to Brum and find ever police car you pass is already dealing with someone else. Either way it's not worth the risk.

Of course the police programs want to make you think you will get caught instantly, they have a line to push. But with most things, your luck won't last forever.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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fandango_c said:
Why didn't you tax the car before the MOT and before the previous tax had run out?
No need to call someone working for the DVLA a prat for clamping an untaxed car.
If you use the on line taxing system it won't let you buy tax if the mot is short.

OP, one of our cars was out of mot (not the one I mention above) for about 6 months, never got pulled. Moved house, she thought I did it, I thought she did it etc etc.

three five five

154 posts

144 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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We drove to Germany last September with the MOT on our motorhome well and truly expired (since July). Blissfully unaware. smile

A few years back my daughter drove Mums car for six months thinking she was covered as a second driver - she even got stopped by the police who were checking tax discs and they didnt twig...

its easy to do.

Kev T360

366 posts

181 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Even if you didn't get stopped, there's always a chance you might bump someone.

TheInsanity1234

740 posts

149 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Not uninsured, but my parents have forgotten to MOT both cars for a few months at a time, as we were in the process of moving and my granddad had recently died at that time, so there was a lot on our plate at the time, and the MOT just vanished out of our minds.

It's easy to do.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

167 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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BFG TERRANO said:
fandango_c said:
Why didn't you tax the car before the MOT and before the previous tax had run out?
No need to call someone working for the DVLA a prat for clamping an untaxed car.
If you use the on line taxing system it won't let you buy tax if the mot is short.
really? I taxed my car on the 29th of November my mot needed renewing before the 14 dec and I did this online

Tannedbaldhead

Original Poster:

3,210 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Kev T360 said:
Even if you didn't get stopped, there's always a chance you might bump someone.
Was my main focus when I discovered what had happened. I felt sick to the stomach when all the what ifs crossed my mind.

MLH

406 posts

153 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Going slightly off topic here but how does the new tax system work regarding mot's?

My cars are all taxed and have a valid mot's but would my tax automatically cease if one of the mot's expired?

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Kev T360 said:
Even if you didn't get stopped, there's always a chance you might bump someone.
And you're still insured to third parties regardless. You'd hope though that if using the point that no MOT means dangerous, anything particularly ropey that wouldnt get through the MOT would come to the owner/driver's attention through the course of day to day travel

Tannedbaldhead

Original Poster:

3,210 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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andy-xr said:
Kev T360 said:
Even if you didn't get stopped, there's always a chance you might bump someone.
And you're still insured to third parties regardless. You'd hope though that if using the point that no MOT means dangerous, anything particularly ropey that wouldnt get through the MOT would come to the owner/driver's attention through the course of day to day travel
I was taxed and MOTed. It was the insurance that was missing.

ambuletz

11,765 posts

211 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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fandango_c said:
ambuletz said:
One time I had my car mot'd on a Saturday late afternoon. All post offices closed so couldn't tax it. Drove it home that day and Sunday morning a prat dvla van drove by and clamped it.
Why didn't you tax the car before the MOT and before the previous tax had run out?
No need to call someone working for the DVLA a prat for clamping an untaxed car.
The car was insured but sorn at the time.

1Addicted

693 posts

151 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I was out with my friend one night in London at a few bars (he doesn't drink). We drive there insured however at midnight, as his Direct Debit had bounced, the car became uninsured for the journey home.
All was well for about 1.5miles, then we were swarmed (five cars, overkill?!) on The Strand and the car impounded.
They went the whole nine yards and promptly crushed the thing too. Maybe they'd just had enough bullshht for one night.


DocJock

8,722 posts

270 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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So if it was SORNed (you know, declared off road), why was it parked on the road?

Europa1

10,923 posts

218 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Simply talking about it in terms of being caught by the police/DVLA misses a very important aspect: the reason you have insurance in the first place. If, god forbid, you cause an accident and hurt someone, you get sued and have to pay damages. Without insurance, how are you going to fund those?

vikingaero

13,451 posts

199 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Back in 2012, our company fleet which comprises about 100 HGVs/18t/7.5/vans/cars, constantly showed on AskMID as being uninsured. We called/emailed the broker who sent us copies of emails to the Insurer who promised to put things right. All vehicles spent the whole year as uninsured and we couldn't tax them online either which was inconvenient.

Given that these were all vehicles racking up 30-60,000 miles a year not one was ever pulled by the Police.