Bugatti Veyron...... 10 years on,
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So 10 years ago the Bugatti Veyron was released upon us. We were told the cost of owning such a thing would be astronomical, both buying and maintaining it. We had costs and pricing reported in the media of a routine service, for instance, costs about £14,000,a set of four tires costing £23,500,every fourth tyre change the Veyron’s rims must be replaced at a cost of £7050 per corner , and so on! Was this proven to be true. Do the owners of these cars have to pay these costs or were they vastly over reported. Surely alternative wheels and tires have become available, not EVERY owner is going to do 230+mph, so why pay a premium for tires you don't need?
I think the reports astronomical running costs are very much correct - and it's reflected in the residuals. The Veyron is a relative bargain on the used market. 
Actually, here's an interesting Autocrat piece that pretty much says the same: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-...
Actually, here's an interesting Autocrat piece that pretty much says the same: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-car-buying-...
I love that guide... "Use cosmetic flaws as a haggling point"
I can just imagine a multi-millionaire trying to knock a couple hundred quid off for a scratch!
Honestly though, if I had the money I think those service bills would still be terrifying.
I do believe Nick Mason said something similar about his Enzo, saying it would need a new clutch after three full bore starts whereas his F40 had only had one the whole time he'd had it.
I can just imagine a multi-millionaire trying to knock a couple hundred quid off for a scratch!
Honestly though, if I had the money I think those service bills would still be terrifying.
I do believe Nick Mason said something similar about his Enzo, saying it would need a new clutch after three full bore starts whereas his F40 had only had one the whole time he'd had it.
Always wish information on running these hyper cars was a bit more easy to come by. I understand people don't like divulging how and where they spend their money but I've always been fascinated to know what the real world costs of servicing and general maintenance are of high sports or super cars.
Short of a lottery win I'll never be in a position to buy one, so an idea of what sorts of bills you get to keep them on the road makes the whole thing seem more realistic in some sense?
Short of a lottery win I'll never be in a position to buy one, so an idea of what sorts of bills you get to keep them on the road makes the whole thing seem more realistic in some sense?
jayemm89 said:
I do believe Nick Mason said something similar about his Enzo, saying it would need a new clutch after three full bore starts whereas his F40 had only had one the whole time he'd had it.
That is an excellent insight. If I were ever in the market for a daft toy, I'd love something robust with relatively sensible running costs.Vaud said:
BigsimonY said:
I just thought 10 years down the line costs would have dropped???
Why? Lots of custom parts, very low volume, niche.
OP - Do you think that any non-OEM tyre manufacturer rushed out to do expensive R&D on a rival tyre? I've checked BlackCircles and can't see that Kuhmo or Falken make a cheap midrange option
Having said that - be fascinating to know actual running costs!
jayemm89 said:
I love that guide... "Use cosmetic flaws as a haggling point"
I can just imagine a multi-millionaire trying to knock a couple hundred quid off for a scratch!
I suspect given the people buying and selling it would be a little more than a couple hundred quid for a simple panel respray. They tend to re-spray this type of car back to factory spec, which does not come cheap. Equally though most buyers seem to get their car re-sprayed and re-trimmed by the manufacturer how they want it anyway.I can just imagine a multi-millionaire trying to knock a couple hundred quid off for a scratch!
This amused me:
“There are no common faults with them, though,” notes Hartley. “They’re an extremely good piece of engineering.”
“The highest-mileage Veyron I know of is a 2006 car that’s done 26,000 miles,” observes Hartley. Most, however, tend to have fewer than 5000 miles on the clock.
How the hell would he, or anyone, know of any common faults if most cars have done less than 5000 miles? It's a somewhat academic point, but still a silly statement.
Chicane-UK said:
Wonder if flemke would be willing to divulge any of that kind of information. Would fully understand if not of course!
If you mean running costs and tyre prices he's posted a few times. As mentioned above in this thread they're quite low for what the car is - something like £2K for the service; the car is well engineered and thought through so there's not a lot to do each time. Tyres were a sticking point however - something like £1K a corner, only available through ML and they insist on fitting and running them in (£2K extra?) so this was a large reason for him changing the wheels to take a standard Ferrari tyre (among other benefits)SteveSteveson said:
I suspect given the people buying and selling it would be a little more than a couple hundred quid for a simple panel respray. They tend to re-spray this type of car back to factory spec, which does not come cheap. Equally though most buyers seem to get their car re-sprayed and re-trimmed by the manufacturer how they want it anyway.
I know from the owner of one that a bonnet respray on the SS WRE was £100k....
SteveSteveson said:
I suspect given the people buying and selling it would be a little more than a couple hundred quid for a simple panel respray. They tend to re-spray this type of car back to factory spec, which does not come cheap. Equally though most buyers seem to get their car re-sprayed and re-trimmed by the manufacturer how they want it anyway.
This amused me:
“There are no common faults with them, though,” notes Hartley. “They’re an extremely good piece of engineering.”
“The highest-mileage Veyron I know of is a 2006 car that’s done 26,000 miles,” observes Hartley. Most, however, tend to have fewer than 5000 miles on the clock.
How the hell would he, or anyone, know of any common faults if most cars have done less than 5000 miles? It's a somewhat academic point, but still a silly statement.
Which sort of epitomises the whole ludicrous folly Veyrons represent. VW spend gazillions developing a car which can travel at warp factor 8 but be easy to drive and superbly made - as it should be for a million quid . And the highest mileage Veyron has done 10k less miles than my one year younger cheap as chips (relatively ) Caterham - so apart from being quicker around Dunsfold Sevens are more enjoyable to drive too... This amused me:
“There are no common faults with them, though,” notes Hartley. “They’re an extremely good piece of engineering.”
“The highest-mileage Veyron I know of is a 2006 car that’s done 26,000 miles,” observes Hartley. Most, however, tend to have fewer than 5000 miles on the clock.
How the hell would he, or anyone, know of any common faults if most cars have done less than 5000 miles? It's a somewhat academic point, but still a silly statement.
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