Transition curb & blocking driveways
Transition curb & blocking driveways
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duckson

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1,319 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Just had a few heated words with a resident while parking on the school run.
Basically the back of my bumper was over the middle of the transition curb (slanted curb from normal height curbs to the dropped curbs) and he couldn't turn right out of his drive (if he wanted to) as there was also another car parked opposite (and mine) would of stopped him....he could turn left though no problem but moaned he wanted to go right (its an estate and they both go to the same exit from the estate!).

My bumper was 'past' the end of his wall (which is inline with the end of the normal height curb) but IMO where his garden wall ends is irrelevant (he said he had his entrance to his drive made wider!).

So what i'm trying to understand/find out is is parking over a 'transition curb' illegal?

(i could understand parking on the dropped curbs and would hold my had up as that is wrong)

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Don't think it's illegal but it's not exactly neighbourly

Magic919

14,567 posts

231 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Not sure of the rules in America.

duckson

Original Poster:

1,319 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Toaster Pilot said:
Don't think it's illegal but it's not exactly neighbourly
I'm not his neighbour but what i'm saying is i didnt block his drive or his car on it (which he didnt argue with), he needed to get off he could of done with ease, just get in and drive off....moaning for moaning sake.

schmunk

4,399 posts

155 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Magic919 said:
Not sure of the rules in America.
I see what you did there.

EnthusiastOwned

730 posts

147 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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I don't think it's illegal. However what you did was a douche move. A pet hate of mine is people inconveniencing others for their own convenience, not cool man; not cool.

feef

5,209 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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I'd always ensure I wasn't overhanging a driveway or access by any amount, even half a kerbstone.

duckson

Original Poster:

1,319 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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EnthusiastOwned said:
I don't think it's illegal. However what you did was a douche move. A pet hate of mine is people inconveniencing others for their own convenience, not cool man; not cool.
It was inconvenient for him because? His entrance wasnt blocked.
If my car was 1 foot further along and opposite the end of his wall (which he seemed to think he had full access to even though it was a full kerb at the end of the wall) and i was parked over the full height kerb he would of still struggled to get off with the car/van parked opposite. I would hazard a guess alot of the cars on driveways on the road would struggle to get out in both directions due to the weight of parked cars.

Ynox

1,754 posts

209 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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You inconvenienced him, thus you're in the wrong to be honest.

Esseesse

9,027 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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You're allowed to park right across a drive if there's no car on it that you'd be blocking in. If there's a car there you cannot block them in. The white lines they paint on the road are only guide lines and are an irrelevance.

Torquey

1,961 posts

258 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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I'm on the side of the miserable resident.

On the other hand he chose to live near a school

duckson

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1,319 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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feef said:
I'd always ensure I wasn't overhanging a driveway or access by any amount, even half a kerbstone.
tbh i thought when i parked it looked a bit tight as i past the end of the wall but when i got out i realised i wasnt blocking him in at all and the end of the wall had been extended for an extra wide driveway entrance (say 1.5 times a normal driveway).

If i was parking there all day i could see the issue but for 5 minutes...

Maybe I should complain to the bus company as there is a bus stop outside my own driveway and there is on occasion a bus stopped letting people on/off and blocking my driveway (completely) for maybe a minute....but i'm not that sad and know there was a bus stop there when i bought the house!

Fire99

9,868 posts

259 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Esseesse said:
You're allowed to park right across a drive if there's no car on it that you'd be blocking in. If there's a car there you cannot block them in. The white lines they paint on the road are only guide lines and are an irrelevance.
But would you want to do that? I can't think there is ever a reason to block someone's driveway.. Just park somewhere else..

duffy78

484 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Highway Code, paragraph 243 requests that motorists "DO NOT PARK in front of an entrance to a property".

The important thing to pay attention to is the language used in the rulings. If 'Do not' is used, then this is advisory and should be followed - but there is no legal comeback if a motorist chooses to ignore it. However, if the rule states 'Must not' then this is a legal requirement and the driver must therefore obey it or if caught or reported, face legal action.


So, ultimately, this is down to a question of courtesy and respect, of which it seems, you have neither.

duckson

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1,319 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Ynox said:
You inconvenienced him, thus you're in the wrong to be honest.
If i'd of blocked entrance/exit he'd of been inconvenienced for a few minutes, fair enough hands up, otherwise i cant see an issue.

bobbo89

6,024 posts

175 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Is the width of his driveway wider than the width of the drop crossing? (back of taper kerb to back of taper kerb)

duckson

Original Poster:

1,319 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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duffy78 said:
Highway Code, paragraph 243 requests that motorists "DO NOT PARK in front of an entrance to a property".

The important thing to pay attention to is the language used in the rulings. If 'Do not' is used, then this is advisory and should be followed - but there is no legal comeback if a motorist chooses to ignore it. However, if the rule states 'Must not' then this is a legal requirement and the driver must therefore obey it or if caught or reported, face legal action.


So, ultimately, this is down to a question of courtesy and respect, of which it seems, you have neither.
I didnt park in front of his drivweway, blocking the driveway though.

andburg

8,755 posts

199 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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he wasn't blocked in so legally you're good.

can see both sides, I guess he gets it all the time but he can get out, even if it means he has to pull out and do a shuffle in the road

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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duckson said:
I'm not his neighbour .
Missed the bit where you said it was the school run - suddenly any slight bit of sympathy for you has gone having had to deal with ignorant fkers like you in the past when I used to live over the back from a school - people would block / park in allocated parking bays so their little scrotes didn't need to walk an extra 50 yards

ranting

Esseesse

9,027 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Fire99 said:
Esseesse said:
You're allowed to park right across a drive if there's no car on it that you'd be blocking in. If there's a car there you cannot block them in. The white lines they paint on the road are only guide lines and are an irrelevance.
But would you want to do that? I can't think there is ever a reason to block someone's driveway.. Just park somewhere else..
No, I was just stating what I believe the rules to be.