Underwhelming Clio 200 Test Drive
Underwhelming Clio 200 Test Drive
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MattHall91

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1,275 posts

155 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Trying to decide on my new car and as my local garage had one in, I thought it would be good to drive it and see what was what.

Firstly, the steering feel was excellent. However apart from that, I wasn't blown away by anything else. The test route was quite short, but included a bit of every type of road.

There are 2 key factors I feel I ought to mention:

1. The salesman was seriously obese (at least 130kg), so no doubt this hindered acceleration
2. It was a non-cup chassis Clio

I know power comes at the top end, but it didn't feel much quicker than my 2.2 diesel Mazda 6!

Am I missing a trick here? I also couldn't live with the Recaros on a daily basis.

My other options include a Z4 Coupé.

J4CKO

47,009 posts

231 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I had a similar thing when I was going to get a 182, got out of a Saab Turbo with less power (150 bhP) and more weight, I expected the Renault to feel much faster, it didnt, I revved it and just as it seemed to have got going I hit the limiter, was dissapointed as otherwise I loved it, I suspect given more a of chance it would have felt better but NA cars generally feel a bit flat after a turbo unless they are huge capacity.

MattHall91

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1,275 posts

155 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Yeah I think you start taking turbo power for granted in every day driving. What did you go for in the end?

Tickle

6,510 posts

235 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I owned one for a few years, up until 6 months ago.

I wouldn't say the steering feel is good at all on them, but no worse than a lot of new cars with electric steering.

They are not particularly fast in a straight line, if that's what you want its not the car for you.

They are however exceptional at corners and breaking, I don't think you could get to feel these features too much on a test drive, especially next to said blob.

Finally the cup cars have stiffer/lower suspension as you already probably know; they also have a quicker steering rack which makes the steering far more direct.

They are cracking cars, I still miss mine to some extent. To 'get' what they are about you need some nice B-roads and revs, lots of revs!

Edited by Tickle on Saturday 31st January 15:21

Tannedbaldhead

3,213 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I went from a 1.8 mkIII MX5to a 184bhp MINI Cooper S. Yes the MINI is quick but it was far from the rocketship I was expecting.

I seriously think u should look at the 2.0 MX5 Sport Tech. If the hottest of hot hatches aren't floating your boat perhaps you need a completely different driving experience. It's not the very best roaster you could have but on the same principle that drew you to the Clio choosing the MX5 would put you in a much newer and lower mileage car than any of the other options.

MattHall91

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1,275 posts

155 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Tannedbaldhead said:
I went from a 1.8 mkIII MX5to a 184bhp MINI Cooper S. Yes the MINI is quick but it was far from the rocketship I was expecting.

I seriously think u should look at the 2.0 MX5 Sport Tech. If the hottest of hot hatches aren't floating your boat perhaps you need a completely different driving experience. It's not the very best roaster you could have but on the same principle that drew you to the Clio choosing the MX5 would put you in a much newer and lower mileage car than any of the other options.
Just looking at them now!

4 years old, sub-40k miles, all necessary options. 9-10 grand. Maybe I was barking up the wrong tree

Tannedbaldhead

3,213 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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MattHall91 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
I went from a 1.8 mkIII MX5to a 184bhp MINI Cooper S. Yes the MINI is quick but it was far from the rocketship I was expecting.

I seriously think u should look at the 2.0 MX5 Sport Tech. If the hottest of hot hatches aren't floating your boat perhaps you need a completely different driving experience. It's not the very best roaster you could have but on the same principle that drew you to the Clio choosing the MX5 would put you in a much newer and lower mileage car than any of the other options.
Just looking at them now!

4 years old, sub-40k miles, all necessary options. 9-10 grand. Maybe I was barking up the wrong tree
If u do decide to get one be quick about it. If the weather's nice in spring demand and therefore used values take a jump.

KFC

3,687 posts

161 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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You know you're buying a st car when the weight of a passenger is having a noticeable effect on performance laugh

MattHall91

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1,275 posts

155 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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KFC said:
You know you're buying a st car when the weight of a passenger is having a noticeable effect on performance laugh
If you think that's funny, you should have seen him trying to negotiate in and out of the Recaros.

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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No, you're buying a light car which is all about power to weight rather than big engine numbers.

In the 182 I certainly notice when I've got a passenger.

danjama

5,728 posts

173 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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If you want an MX5 and you have 10k to spend, why not wait for the new model and put a lump payment on that? smile

clowesy

294 posts

152 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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My test drive of a Clio 197 consisted of me been egged on by the salesman to take each roundabout on a newly built, deserted bypass faster and faster. Fast in a straight line they are not, so you need a good test route to really feel what they're all about. But as I mentioned in your previous post, you have got to be committed to deal with their shortcomings on a daily basis, knowing that come the weekend it becomes a completely different car. Test the Zed and find a full fat 200 with recaro seats and the cup chassis to take for a test drive before you make your mind up. Maybe even get on to one of the Renaultsport forums and see if there's anyone willing to take you for a proper ride along.

Fastra

4,289 posts

240 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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KFC said:
You know you're buying a st car when the weight of a passenger is having a noticeable effect on performance laugh
st car....?



keo

3,024 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Hi Matt shame you didnt get on with the 200 when i had a quick test drive of one (no cup pack or Recaros, so i expect one with them to be better) I was left to go out on my own init so had a little fun. It felt nippy to me but not quick. Don't think it had the same "kick" as my old Trophy. Although both probably similarly matched.
Good luck car hunting!

PhillipM

6,564 posts

220 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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KFC said:
You know you're buying a st car when the weight of a passenger is having a noticeable effect on performance laugh
Caterham, Radical, Atom, Lotus....

Tickle

6,510 posts

235 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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PhillipM said:
KFC said:
You know you're buying a st car when the weight of a passenger is having a noticeable effect on performance laugh
Caterham, Radical, Atom, Lotus....
All scensoredt apparently rolleyes

KFC

3,687 posts

161 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Fair enough. I meant a 'normal' car. If a passenger or a suitcase or something is making a performance difference then its horribly underpowered.

PhillipM

6,564 posts

220 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Normal car or not, it's nothing to do with it's outright power, and all to do with it's weight.

Frankly, if you don't feel a difference with a passenger in the car, it's because your car is lardy whale. wink

Baryonyx

18,293 posts

190 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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KFC said:
You know you're buying a st car when the weight of a passenger is having a noticeable effect on performance laugh
My favourite hot hatch of all time, but definitely better alone. Definitely not a st car...



I'll not bother mentioning the Elise, the MR2 Roadster, etc etc...

GravelBen

16,539 posts

261 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Tickle said:
They are however exceptional at breaking
I guess it is French...