Another eBay scam?
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Greggyboy

Original Poster:

61 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Hi guys,

I have put one is my cars on eBay earlier today. I hadn't uploaded any pictures at the time and received a message from somebody who was interested.

He made me a reasonable offer, but then bought it at the but it now price which was slightly over his offer.

I also put in the description of the item that a £100 non refundable deposit was required. I have sent that to him to remind him because he has not paid it yet.

Obviously a few alarm bells have rang, especially he has 148 positive feedback but claims not to have PayPal?

Any thoughts?

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Link to the listing?

It's sold now so surely that's allowed, may help to understand what compelled him to click now and look at pictures later.

Greggyboy

Original Poster:

61 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Hi, thanks for the quick reply! My phone isn't letting me go to the listing because it has ended, but for anyone who is interested my eBay name is cupragreg. (Mods please remove if not allowed!)

I was being fairly optimistic with my price, however he offered me 7.5k,then he ended the auction by buying it now at the listed price.

He has said he has booked the day off work (about an hour ago?) to come and get it.

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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VXR?

In all seriousness, there is a risk that he'll turn up with his mate, club you round the canister and drive off in your car. I would exercise extreme caution. Arrange to meet him in a public place and only go back to your house if you're happy they're genuine, especially if no deposit is received. In fact, if they don't pay the deposit, don't meet them.

MattHall91

1,275 posts

155 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Do not proceed. Re-list and let someone else buy it. As above, they could steal it and even worse - hurt you.
The fact he bought it above offer that quickly is way too dodgy.

M4cruiser

5,229 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Hmmmmm... excuse me if this comes across as a criticism but I think you're not being cautious enough. Technology and modern communication can be wonderful but can also be abused by some.

Like the above poster said, don't give the bidder any info (like your address) until you have the deposit. I wouldn't take PayPal anyway for this. in fact for a car like this I wouldn't have put it on Ebay.

But, I hope it goes well. Perhaps I'm being over cautious myself.





Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

carreauchompeur

18,331 posts

235 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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I'd (charitably) put the offer then higher BIN to keenness.

But being willing to buy for £750 more is fishy for me.

I'm going to predict that, rather than any clubbing, he will bring his 'cousin' round who will find fault and they will kick you in the balks with a much lower offer.

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Test-drive/story-20...

You get the idea. There is an equal number of people saying their insurance won't pay out because they allowed/enabled somebody to drive off in their car.

Greggyboy

Original Poster:

61 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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I really appreciate the replies, but surely posting this for some help is exercising a bit of caution?

If he does meet me tomorrow like he says he wants to, the car will be blocked in by another car.

Also apologies for owning an astra vxr!

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Good luck then... The stolen cars thread is pinned at the top.

Greggyboy

Original Poster:

61 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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I might be a fool but I'm not going to let anybody test drive the car without full insurance details.

The only thing that is making me think that this is NOT a scam is his eBay rating.

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Greggyboy said:
I might be a fool but I'm not going to let anybody test drive the car without full insurance details.

The only thing that is making me think that this is NOT a scam is his eBay rating.
148 positive is nothing. Claimed lack of Paypal suggests a hacked account.

Greggyboy

Original Poster:

61 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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He has just rang me and spoke about the deal. Still hasn't got rid of any doubts I might have.

The hacked account thing is more than likely.

I think I will just re list it tonight.

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Screams hacked account to me too.

You seem to be getting defensive, nobody is having a go. You can demand an insurance certificate as much as you like, but if they clout you round the head or pull out a knife it doesn't matter a st.

People create opportunities to steal desirable cars with the keys, this whole scenario is hugely suspect and you need to be very careful. Blocking your car in and demanding paperwork is not enough.

Greggyboy

Original Poster:

61 posts

159 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Not trying to come off as overly defensive, apologies for that!

I do really appreciate the feedback people are giving me.

I never usually sell a car privately, hence why I posted this thread. I'm sure alot of veteran members are sick of seeing threads like this.

But I would rather get a bit of stick on a forum than lose a fair chunk of cash.

Bit stuck on what to do, don't really want to give the guy my address now.

22Rgt

3,575 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Block the car in with another and theyll take that too as soon as they have sight of the keys. All the makings of a lost car complete with a good clubbing for your trouble..

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

163 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Then don't. Alarm bells shouldn't be ignored. Selling cars privately is awful, especially with a (no offence) prick magnet like that. How far are WBAC from what you want? Or isn't there a VXR forum you can sell it through?

northandy

3,540 posts

252 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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I sold a golf r32 a goodfew years back on eBay, for about 14k

Guy made offer, I accepted, he agreed to come a few days later, turned up 3 hours late, his mate in a van had engine running all the time, to say I was nervous was an understatement. However cash paid after a poke round and all fine.

Personally I'd get a few mates round if you can when he is due to show up and have it parked so it can't be just driven off