Compulsory Overall 30mph Speed Limit
Discussion
Just looked at my average speed for a 50 mile slog through average traffic and roadworks, came out at 29mph.
Going 60 and 70 where possible but rarely because of congestion.
If you had an overall 30 limit (speed limiters on vehicles making it physically impossible to exceed) there would be the following advantages
1.Far less accidents and injuries, taking pressure off the NHS, legal system, insurance etc.and general reduction in human misery.
2. Cars built with maximum safety, economy and comfort. Less aerodynamic compromises
3. Perhaps more actual traffic flow due to closing spaces between vehicles as discovered on M25 when they reduced the speed to 50 mph.
4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.
5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.
As a concession I would increase the number of race tracks around the country dedicated to Pistonheaders!
Going 60 and 70 where possible but rarely because of congestion.
If you had an overall 30 limit (speed limiters on vehicles making it physically impossible to exceed) there would be the following advantages
1.Far less accidents and injuries, taking pressure off the NHS, legal system, insurance etc.and general reduction in human misery.
2. Cars built with maximum safety, economy and comfort. Less aerodynamic compromises
3. Perhaps more actual traffic flow due to closing spaces between vehicles as discovered on M25 when they reduced the speed to 50 mph.
4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.
5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.
As a concession I would increase the number of race tracks around the country dedicated to Pistonheaders!
Either you are not familiar with the concept of average speed, or you are a bit of a tit. Charitably, I would explain that periods of stillness (lights, queues etc) will bring down an average so that nice stretch at 60 doesn't do much to bring the average back up. Having a max of thirty will mean your average is now 15 mph. And is that your next target?
Besides which, much better to teach children, cyclists and pedestrians that cars hurt - stay away from them
Besides which, much better to teach children, cyclists and pedestrians that cars hurt - stay away from them
randlemarcus said:
Either you are not familiar with the concept of average speed, or you are a bit of a tit. Charitably, I would explain that periods of stillness (lights, queues etc) will bring down an average so that nice stretch at 60 doesn't do much to bring the average back up. Having a max of thirty will mean your average is now 15 mph. And is that your next target?
Besides which, much better to teach children, cyclists and pedestrians that cars hurt - stay away from them
Quite. And also teach children some basic maths, eg some stuff about averages might help. Besides which, much better to teach children, cyclists and pedestrians that cars hurt - stay away from them
Vanin said:
Just looked at my average speed for a 50 mile slog through average traffic and roadworks, came out at 29mph.
Going 60 and 70 where possible but rarely because of congestion.
If you had an overall 30 limit (speed limiters on vehicles making it physically impossible to exceed) there would be the following advantages
1.Far less accidents and injuries, taking pressure off the NHS, legal system, insurance etc.and general reduction in human misery.
2. Cars built with maximum safety, economy and comfort. Less aerodynamic compromises
3. Perhaps more actual traffic flow due to closing spaces between vehicles as discovered on M25 when they reduced the speed to 50 mph.
4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.
5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.
As a concession I would increase the number of race tracks around the country dedicated to Pistonheaders!
You are a tit, and clearly haven't thought properly about what you have written. Going 60 and 70 where possible but rarely because of congestion.
If you had an overall 30 limit (speed limiters on vehicles making it physically impossible to exceed) there would be the following advantages
1.Far less accidents and injuries, taking pressure off the NHS, legal system, insurance etc.and general reduction in human misery.
2. Cars built with maximum safety, economy and comfort. Less aerodynamic compromises
3. Perhaps more actual traffic flow due to closing spaces between vehicles as discovered on M25 when they reduced the speed to 50 mph.
4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.
5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.
As a concession I would increase the number of race tracks around the country dedicated to Pistonheaders!
Leins said:
How did you come up with point 4?
Because public transport is fairly unfit for purpose and massively time-inefficient.By hamstringing private transport to be equally incompatible with modern lifestyles, public transport would appear slightly less like flogging a dead horse.
Vanin said:
4. Puts pressure on the government to come up with a really efficient and cheap public transport system.
Ignoring the rest of your spouting, how can public transport be efficient out of the big cities? Lets look at who uses pubic transportGuardian Readers that are not in their 911- f
k that don't want to be infected with lentil fart smells or sanctimonious tutting.Old people that are not in their Jazzes- f
k that don't want to smell of pee or Palma Violets before I get to work.Scratters- f
k that I don't like watching the Jeremy Kyle show so why would I sit in it? Also the stink of rollies and skunk makes me feel ill in the morning.School Kids- f
k that.People like you- f
k that. Vanin said:
5. Huge saving in countrywide fuel usage as well as reduced pollution, would help to advance the electric vehicles.
Why would anyone want to get into an electrical vehicle, they terrify me on 2 fronts, surely its only a matter of time before they burn the garage down and secondly if we end up with loads of EV's in cities the amount killed and injured will skyrocket, negating your savings to the NHS. I'd be looking for new work, a new hobby and new holiday destinations...
Work: I currently have a 36 mile commute each way to work that takes me 40 minutes. At 30mph it'd take 1hr12min - that's nearly two and a half hours in the car everyday, which would be too much for my back and sanity I think.
Hobbies: My weekly windsurfing trips to the coast would take two and a quarter hours each way. Cadwell Park would be six and a half hours away...
Holdays: A drive to our favourite spot in the Lake District for a long weekend would take over 9 hours! More scarily, our planned euro road trip this year would involve 67 hours of solid driving
Less selfishly, I think the impact on the economy would be fairly severe, with road haulage times almost doubling.
Work: I currently have a 36 mile commute each way to work that takes me 40 minutes. At 30mph it'd take 1hr12min - that's nearly two and a half hours in the car everyday, which would be too much for my back and sanity I think.
Hobbies: My weekly windsurfing trips to the coast would take two and a quarter hours each way. Cadwell Park would be six and a half hours away...
Holdays: A drive to our favourite spot in the Lake District for a long weekend would take over 9 hours! More scarily, our planned euro road trip this year would involve 67 hours of solid driving
Less selfishly, I think the impact on the economy would be fairly severe, with road haulage times almost doubling.
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