Removing Private Plate From Cat B
Removing Private Plate From Cat B
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s31teg

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13 posts

141 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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In 2010 my previous car was declared CatB.

It was auctioned and sold off but it seems never scrapped (HPI Check).

Now I'm trying to get my cherished private plate that I had on it. According to DVLA the car requires an MOT & Tax to transfer this. Also I don't know the exact location of the car ATM. (Somewhere in Scotland I believe).

Just seeing if anyone has any advice with this for a possible solution.

Thanks in advance!

B'stard Child

31,163 posts

277 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Snowflakes chance in hell- good luck

Your opportunitiy to remove the plate was in 2010

GCH

4,141 posts

233 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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s31teg

Original Poster:

13 posts

141 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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@B'stard Child

Yeah I know. It's crazy this is the only way you can transfer the reg in circumstances like this. I have all certificated etc, you should be able to 'buy it back'.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

157 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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s31teg said:
In 2010 my previous car was declared CatB.

It was auctioned and sold off but it seems never scrapped (HPI Check).

Now I'm trying to get my cherished private plate that I had on it. According to DVLA the car requires an MOT & Tax to transfer this. Also I don't know the exact location of the car ATM. (Somewhere in Scotland I believe).
OK, let's go with the unlikely scenario that the car isn't wrapped around baked beans on a supermarket shelf, but does still exist and is MOT-able. Why, exactly, should you have any dibs on the plate attached to a car that you haven't owned for the last four and a bit years?

s31teg said:
I have all certificated etc, you should be able to 'buy it back'.
You could have retained the plate, at the time of the claim. Instead, you received a payout for the car, complete, as it sat in the salvage yard. Plate included.

s31teg

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Friday 6th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
You could have retained the plate, at the time of the claim. Instead, you received a payout for the car, complete, as it sat in the salvage yard. Plate included.
I'm not asking for what I could of done in hindsight but any possibly solution to move forward.

I had already accepted its gone last year but I'm not one to give up, thus trying to look for some information on this scenario.

Thanks

McCrae1971

89 posts

262 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Do you know the current owner as you may need their consent to claim the plate back. If it's the insurance company not to bad but if a private owner you may have an issue. If not done already speak directly with DVLA.

Had a car of mine stolen and had to wait 12 months to get it back which I know is different circs but DVLA made it clear what needed to be done. The web sites I found were very vague.

s31teg

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13 posts

141 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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McCrae1971 said:
Do you know the current owner as you may need their consent to claim the plate back. If it's the insurance company not to bad but if a private owner you may have an issue. If not done already speak directly with DVLA.

Had a car of mine stolen and had to wait 12 months to get it back which I know is different circs but DVLA made it clear what needed to be done. The web sites I found were very vague.
I don't know TBH but I could find out. I'm sure I could come to a deal for it.

A HPI says its not scrapped but it could be and never reported.

McCrae1971

89 posts

262 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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I'd speak to the DVLA and see if they can help. Sure they can point you in the right direction as to who it's currently registered to.

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

189 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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McCrae1971 said:
Do you know the current owner as you may need their consent to claim the plate back. If it's the insurance company not to bad but if a private owner you may have an issue. If not done already speak directly with DVLA.

Had a car of mine stolen and had to wait 12 months to get it back which I know is different circs but DVLA made it clear what needed to be done. The web sites I found were very vague.
A Cat B car will not be with a private owner, it will belong to a salvage dealer if it hasn't already become bean tins as another poster said

s31teg

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141 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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McCrae1971 said:
I'd speak to the DVLA and see if they can help. Sure they can point you in the right direction as to who it's currently registered to.
This is what I thought, turns out they won't tell you anything thus the HPI search i done.

ridds

8,372 posts

275 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Even if you do locate it and it's not bean cans.

Said breaker is going to have you by the short and curries as soon as you mention you want the plate off the car. All he'll see is ££££.

s31teg

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Friday 6th February 2015
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ridds said:
Even if you do locate it and it's not bean cans.

Said breaker is going to have you by the short and curries as soon as you mention you want the plate off the car. All he'll see is ££££.
Yeah this is a downside but as i said I'm sure we can sort something out.

ikarl

4,069 posts

230 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Toaster Pilot said:
A Cat B car will not be with a private owner, it will belong to a salvage dealer if it hasn't already become bean tins as another poster said
Ignore this, it may be with a private owner, although RECOMMENDED that it should be scrapped, it's certainly not what happens in all cases. Has the car been mot'd recently?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

157 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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s31teg said:
TooMany2cvs said:
You could have retained the plate, at the time of the claim. Instead, you received a payout for the car, complete, as it sat in the salvage yard. Plate included.
I'm not asking for what I could of done in hindsight but any possibly solution to move forward.
There is only one possible solution. Accept that you received money for the car complete with the plate, four and a bit years ago, and move on with your life.

OK, let's play purely hypothetical "What if?", and describe exactly what you need to happen in order to get the plate back. You need to locate the salvage yard that it's sat in, and hope they're amenable to breaching the ABI regulations which mean a CatB can never be anything but a parts donor, risking being blacklisted by the insurers are removed from the list of approved salvage dealers. Then you need to apply for a V5C for it, which will require a VIC at the very minimum. Once you have the V5C, you need to MOT it, insure it and tax it. THEN, and only then, you can transfer the plate off it.

Exactly how much money are you happy to throw at getting this plate back?

Anybody got the thread about the CatB AMG E-class, and the sagas involved in getting that legal again? Didn't that end up being broken, because it was too much hassle - and that was with the car being present and fixable.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Friday 6th February 11:25


Edited by TooMany2cvs on Friday 6th February 11:26

Toaster Pilot

14,867 posts

189 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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ikarl said:
Ignore this, it may be with a private owner, although RECOMMENDED that it should be scrapped, it's certainly not what happens in all cases. Has the car been mot'd recently?
It was auctioned, presumably by Copart, who will only sell Cat B to licensed salvage dealers

s31teg

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141 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Toaster Pilot said:
It was auctioned, presumably by Copart, who will only sell Cat B to licensed salvage dealers
Yes this is correct.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

219 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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They don't need an MOT, the reason why they ask for it is so they can make a new one with the new reg on it.

If the car has been off the road for a while, they might ask to see it for an identity check, but it can be transferred without an MOT.

s31teg

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Friday 6th February 2015
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TheEnd said:
They don't need an MOT, the reason why they ask for it is so they can make a new one with the new reg on it.

If the car has been off the road for a while, they might ask to see it for an identity check, but it can be transferred without an MOT.
So IF the car exists it could be a possibility you think?

Du1point8

22,946 posts

223 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Thats if the new owners decide to give it back.

I suspect its going to cost a lot once they realise you want a PP off a car from 4 years ago and make you pay full price.