Focus ST3 or Civic Type R Championship white edition
Discussion
TypeR looks better, ST goes better.
ST can be tuned easier/cheaper than the TypeR.
TypeR will be more economical than the ST.
TypeR isn't as council as the ST./controversial
ST sounds better than the TypeR.
TypeR isn't as common as the ST.
Equally good cars, think i'd have a TypeR though, all things considered.
ST can be tuned easier/cheaper than the TypeR.
TypeR will be more economical than the ST.
TypeR isn't as council as the ST./controversial
ST sounds better than the TypeR.
TypeR isn't as common as the ST.
Equally good cars, think i'd have a TypeR though, all things considered.
ST will be very slightly quicker in a straight, but mapped it will be lightyears faster than the N/A CTR.
CTR will be much quicker in the corners, especially the CW option.
The ST has the better ride quality, but the interior, equipment and seats are better in the CTR.
CTR is much rarer (CW edition), but also slightly more expensive to insure and service.
ST is more expensive on fuel.
IMO the CTR looks far better.
Both very big inside but CTR only comes in 3dr and 4 seats.
Both huge boots.
CTR is more fun to drive quickly IMO, ST is better for day to day, although the lack of cruise control is poor.
I've driven both extensively and I wouldn't change my CTR for an ST in a million years, equally my friend with a MP260 ST wouldn't swap either as he loves the Focus.
...Long story short, drive both, both are very good, both are very different and after a good drive in both you will just know.
CTR will be much quicker in the corners, especially the CW option.
The ST has the better ride quality, but the interior, equipment and seats are better in the CTR.
CTR is much rarer (CW edition), but also slightly more expensive to insure and service.
ST is more expensive on fuel.
IMO the CTR looks far better.
Both very big inside but CTR only comes in 3dr and 4 seats.
Both huge boots.
CTR is more fun to drive quickly IMO, ST is better for day to day, although the lack of cruise control is poor.
I've driven both extensively and I wouldn't change my CTR for an ST in a million years, equally my friend with a MP260 ST wouldn't swap either as he loves the Focus.
...Long story short, drive both, both are very good, both are very different and after a good drive in both you will just know.
Civic!
I can't offer any real-world experience of either, but my knee-jerk reaction would be for the Japanese machine.
Even though they were slated by the press for not being as good as the EP3 I think they're fantastic. Whilst the ST may be the quicker car in many respects, it is as dull as dishwater. Every man and his (equally chavvy) dog has a Ford Focus.
I can't offer any real-world experience of either, but my knee-jerk reaction would be for the Japanese machine.
Even though they were slated by the press for not being as good as the EP3 I think they're fantastic. Whilst the ST may be the quicker car in many respects, it is as dull as dishwater. Every man and his (equally chavvy) dog has a Ford Focus.
I found that the Civic was best when being driven flat out - and it was a hoot. The Focus is easier to live with as it's less hardcore, so it depends what you want really. I assume you've driven both?
For me the MP260 (or other "Stage 1" upgrade) makes the Focus the car it should have been from the factory.
Not sure I'd say the 2.5 was a "great" engine - but it sounds good and is effective at delivering plenty of torque. I think the Honda is a more impressive engine.
Our neighbour has a CTR (non-CW edition) and real world consumption is on a par with the Focus I have.
In response to C.A.R...
For me the MP260 (or other "Stage 1" upgrade) makes the Focus the car it should have been from the factory.
Not sure I'd say the 2.5 was a "great" engine - but it sounds good and is effective at delivering plenty of torque. I think the Honda is a more impressive engine.
Our neighbour has a CTR (non-CW edition) and real world consumption is on a par with the Focus I have.
In response to C.A.R...
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