Buying a car from ebay unseen - risky?
Buying a car from ebay unseen - risky?
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TheAngryDog

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13,295 posts

240 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Would you say buying a £3k plus car from eBay without viewing it first is a bit risky? I am talking along the lines of a Mazda 6 MPS. I am concerned about winning the auction and the car not being as described, but being obliged to buy it..


Cliftonite

8,753 posts

169 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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You are not obliged to buy it if it is not as described.




egor110

17,690 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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TheAngryDog said:
Would you say buying a £3k plus car from eBay without viewing it first is a bit risky? I am talking along the lines of a Mazda 6 MPS. I am concerned about winning the auction and the car not being as described, but being obliged to buy it..
Look up what the commmon faults are, ask the seller the right questions then if it turns out not to be what he said you don't have to buy it.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

194 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Not as described,walk away,bad feedback,simple.

rupert the dog

1,433 posts

248 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Of course not. I'm surprised you even felt the need to ask.

TheAngryDog

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Sunday 8th March 2015
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rupert the dog said:
Of course not. I'm surprised you even felt the need to ask.
Ive never bought a car from ebay before, seen or unseen, so its a "new" thing for me.

I know the common faults of the car.

Horse Pop

685 posts

175 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Don't you get additional protection buying over the internet?

RedBull

1,142 posts

253 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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I bought my GSXR1000 unseen on ebay. Before I bid I contacted the seller, got a phone number and rang him up. Talked about the bike, liked what I heard. Told him I would bid only on the understanding that if the bike is not as he had described I would walk away and we would leave it at that, but if it was as described I would pay the full winning bid amount in cash, no attempts to haggle, and ride it away. He was perfectly happy with that, so I had more confidence that he was being honest with me.
I won the auction, bike was every bit as good as he said, I paid and rode it away.
As has been said, you are only obliged to buy if it is as described, don't let anyone try to fool you otherwise. But if you do as I did then you can be sure that both parties understand all this in advance of bidding. If the seller isn't happy with that then I would have to wonder why.

TheAngryDog

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Monday 9th March 2015
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RedBull said:
I bought my GSXR1000 unseen on ebay. Before I bid I contacted the seller, got a phone number and rang him up. Talked about the bike, liked what I heard. Told him I would bid only on the understanding that if the bike is not as he had described I would walk away and we would leave it at that, but if it was as described I would pay the full winning bid amount in cash, no attempts to haggle, and ride it away. He was perfectly happy with that, so I had more confidence that he was being honest with me.
I won the auction, bike was every bit as good as he said, I paid and rode it away.
As has been said, you are only obliged to buy if it is as described, don't let anyone try to fool you otherwise. But if you do as I did then you can be sure that both parties understand all this in advance of bidding. If the seller isn't happy with that then I would have to wonder why.
Unfortunately for me the auction ends at 7:30am today so getting chance to speak to the owner is going to be difficult.

I'll bare this all in mind for future reference though. Thanks.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

220 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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TheAngryDog said:
Unfortunately for me the auction ends at 7:30am today so getting chance to speak to the owner is going to be difficult.

I'll bare this all in mind for future reference though. Thanks.
Don't worry about getting bad feedback either - sellers can't leave anything but positive feedback. It is work thinking about having a second Ebay account for buying though - it's easy for someone to trash your account if you ever do any selling on it.

And to answer someone else question about extra protection when buying on the internet - no I don't think you do.

davamer23

1,158 posts

185 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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Did you win the auction OP?

kambites

71,680 posts

252 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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I bought my Elise from ebay unseen. Admittedly that was eight years ago and I think there were a lot less scammers around then.

As I understand it you are NEVER obliged to buy a car you've "won" on ebay, whether it's as described or not. Ebay Motors is explicitly exempt from that contractual obligation.

Edited by kambites on Monday 9th March 08:20

TheAngryDog

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Monday 9th March 2015
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northwest monkey said:
Don't worry about getting bad feedback either - sellers can't leave anything but positive feedback. It is work thinking about having a second Ebay account for buying though - it's easy for someone to trash your account if you ever do any selling on it.

And to answer someone else question about extra protection when buying on the internet - no I don't think you do.
Ah sensible idea, though I do little selling on ebay anyway, 99.9% is buying.

I'll bare it in mind next time a car comes up. I had a few doubts about the one I was on about In my OP. It did go cheap so I guess i would have had around £1500 as a war chest to put things right.

Next time!

TheAngryDog

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Monday 9th March 2015
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davamer23 said:
Did you win the auction OP?
I didn't bid, i erred on the side of caution and didn't really fancy trekking around late for a car after a 12 hour night shift

akirk

5,778 posts

145 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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additional protection online is DSR (distance selling regulations), but unlikely to apply to a private seller in any form / for any item.
also, if you are finishing the transaction with the seller in person (paying and driving away) then DSR wouldn't apply as your contract is formed when you hand the cash over - not in the ebay bid...

any seller private or trade has to describe things accurately - the issues come where the wording allows them to sell something slightly dodgy, but the purchaser optimistically reads something else into the wording and is then disappointed - at that point, buyer beware - if the wording is accurate and you make the purchase you don't have any comeback...

however the majority of sellers are perfectly honest types, and it doesn't take much to spot the difference - any warning signals and don't proceed...

I have sold a number of cars on ebay, dealt with some great people - one came twice, to view and then collect, knew the car and had been looking for that model for 18 months, the others just turned up handed me a wodge of cash and drove off!

TheAngryDog

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Monday 9th March 2015
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akirk said:
additional protection online is DSR (distance selling regulations), but unlikely to apply to a private seller in any form / for any item.
also, if you are finishing the transaction with the seller in person (paying and driving away) then DSR wouldn't apply as your contract is formed when you hand the cash over - not in the ebay bid...

any seller private or trade has to describe things accurately - the issues come where the wording allows them to sell something slightly dodgy, but the purchaser optimistically reads something else into the wording and is then disappointed - at that point, buyer beware - if the wording is accurate and you make the purchase you don't have any comeback...

however the majority of sellers are perfectly honest types, and it doesn't take much to spot the difference - any warning signals and don't proceed...

I have sold a number of cars on ebay, dealt with some great people - one came twice, to view and then collect, knew the car and had been looking for that model for 18 months, the others just turned up handed me a wodge of cash and drove off!
The last 3 cars I looked at hadnt been described honestly hence my caution. I guess next time a car comes up then I will speak with the seller on the phone before bidding.

Rincewind209

288 posts

148 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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I feel the rule with EBAY is simple, upto £1500-2000 take a chance. Obviously if it's completely different to description you refuse to buy it when you get there. Over this price and go and look at it and give it a thorough going over. I've bought four cars on EBAY and they have all been the same as buying any other second hand car.

TheAngryDog

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Monday 9th March 2015
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Well I need a runaround now so my next car will be under a grand just to tide me over while i find an mps 6 mazda as I've been car less for 3 weeks now! Ebay is likely to be my friend for a cheap local car.

danjama

5,728 posts

173 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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What's local for you?

There's a tidy e36 323i for sale in Romford. I'm not buying it but saw it yesterday and it doesn't need anything really. Just a noisy thrust bearing.

£1k.

(i'm honestly no friend of the seller, but i know you like BM's).

TheAngryDog

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Monday 9th March 2015
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danjama said:
What's local for you?

There's a tidy e36 323i for sale in Romford. I'm not buying it but saw it yesterday and it doesn't need anything really. Just a noisy thrust bearing.

£1k.

(i'm honestly no friend of the seller, but i know you like BM's).
Cheers for the heads up! Local to me is 60 miles tops really. I don't see the point in travelling too far for a cheap car. I'll be on Gumtree, eBay, ph classifieds and auto trader tonight.