Sound check- V12 or Turbocharged with anti-lag?

[Patrick Bateman]

Brought on by a debate I'm having with a friend, which do you prefer? I'm not talking full-on Lamborghini style V12 here but something like this DB9-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq1JrBmsZxE&t=...

In comparison with things like this evo-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXfUbFR-x7g

For me, it's a no contest. As far as I'm concerned that evo is just a lot of nothing noise, my friend is the polar opposite. I'm curious as to what's the general consensus on here?

And this is specific to V12's so forget the 'neither, a straight 6/V8/V10' etc.

[sebhaque]

V12 no question.

Although the Evo is a pretty dismal sound for a turbo rally car. An Impreza would have been a better balance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIzCsaOZHRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3mLHBJvQ1A&t=...

[Patrick Bateman]

True but it's still much of a muchness to me.

[StottyEvo]

I'll have one of each please

[Sf_Manta]

Hard one to be said...

Though if you're going turbo.. can't go wrong with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDRkHXMHqFo

Audi Group B S1 on FULL attack

[corvettedave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsHLLmgOulM

V10 with anti lag sounds interesting

[Patrick Bateman]

corvettedave said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsHLLmgOulM

V10 with anti lag sounds interesting

Mmm to my ears all that's doing is ruining a good soundtrack.

[McSam]

I hoped to come in here and say the V12 without question, but that video is a pretty crap representation. Even just sticking to the DB9, try this instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFjdronK-A

Nicer in a V12 Vantage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkcvYp6Z20

[Patrick Bateman]

I prefer the DB9 clip I posted to that one from inside the car.

[McSam]

Interesting. To me, a V12 in a cruiser should be creamy and woofly, in something more aggressive it should really howl. That exterior DB9 clip just sounds harsh and grating to me, nothing you couldn't achieve with a lesser V8.

This is always a good one. Completely undriveable, of course, even at quarter throttle it's absolutely absurd, but man.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN8pHJ3sQ0Q

[Patrick Bateman]

I find interior clips with the sound tend not to be as good as hearing the thing outside. That Merc is into the realms of full on supercar stuff, not really what I was debating with my friend.

[Zad]

The automatic box on that AM is really doing it no favours for sound!

The Quattro clip that I always remember is this: http://youtu.be/kPAT8bcaoDc?t=8m17s

It sounds like a big wild angry cat that's broken it's leg and trying to get away to safety. It went on to finish second. No idea why the diffs weren't locking.

[Samjeev]

For me it has to be a turbo, but mainly if it sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SccjaskA1n8text

[AntiLagGC8]

I maybe biased somewhat here as my Impreza has anti-lag but I've always loved the drama of anti-lag running. The pops and bangs make the car feel pretty special.

Anti-lag isn't a mode for the road use (not to mention I'm sure it would be illegal). I couldn't drive it on the road with it enabled anyway, its just too brutal. It also very rapidly shortens the life of the turbo and other components.

Still on the track, its pretty epic!

[to3m]

Patrick Bateman said:

True but it's still much of a muchness to me.

Yes. I prefer the V12, but they both sound pretty farty.

(Cars can sometimes be pretty disappointing from the outside - I've mistaken V12s for V8s on account of how rough they sounded listening to the exhaust. I'm sure they sounded amazing inside though. Same effect as my 330d... a pleasing harsh-but-sweet whiskey burr when you're sat inside it, but from the outside it sounds like somebody rattling pennies in a collection tin.)

Edited by to3m on Tuesday 10th March 00:46

[aka_kerrly]

Zad said:

The automatic box on that AM is really doing it no favours for sound!

There are plenty of videos which do a AM v12 far more justice

From 2 minutes on..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvvAH513wQU

drag racing a DBS with a Supersprint exhaust system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N54cYO2os6Y

[Patrick Bateman]

Looks like the poll is going much the way I expected for this site although I suspect that reflects the demographic compared to the usual age group that seems to fawn over the Jap turbo stuff.

[soad]

The V12 has such a complex sound. It's almost scary hearing it approach.

Ferrari 512 M V12 Engine Roar - Start Up, Accelerations & Fly Bys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdkBRMGcb8

[aka_kerrly]

Patrick Bateman said:

Looks like the poll is going much the way I expected for this site although I suspect that reflects the demographic compared to the usual age group that seems to fawn over the Jap turbo stuff.

I'm inclined to agree although I cannot stand it when people make statements like all 4 cylinder have no character or sound like wet farts which would appear consistent with a chunk of the demographic around here.

[CharlesAL]

Out of those two, the V12. That Audi Quattro in Finland is pretty special though, watched it loads of times.