DC2 Integra Type-R or GT86/BRZ. Which would you choose?
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Apologies for another `which would you choose` thread but this will be the last one for a while. The poor old 205 despite having its admirers got trounced by the DC2 Integra in the PH poll yesterday but then to be fair, the Integra is a 10+ year newer design with all the advances in engineering that entails. How would the Integra fair against a brand new design though? The DC2 Integra Type-R is arguably the finest FWD car ever built and the GT86/ BRZ is by all accounts not the finest RWD car ever built but is a very good one.
Other than the obvious difference (FWD vs. RWD), the specs are remarkably similar. Similar power, similar weight etc. Similar ethos too. Neither is a looker or has the showroom appeal of an Audi TT say in terms of its interior but they both prioritise driving enjoyment over everything else and the fundamentals like the driving position, seats, pedals, steering wheel and gearchange are all essentially `right` by all accounts (I have sat in an Integra but not a GT86 or BRZ yet).
To me, the Integra somehow seems more `special`and exclusive and would likely have the superior drivetrain. The GT86/BRZ however does have that RWD handling balance and although I have been unimpressed with the gutless nature of NA Subaru engines in the past (I like my Subarus with phenomenal traction and turbocharged shove), nearly 100bhp/ litre from an NA engine isn`t too shabby! It's certainly one of the few new cars that I could reasonably afford that appeals to me.
Taking purchase price out of the equation then (as the price difference is significant), which would you rather own?
Other than the obvious difference (FWD vs. RWD), the specs are remarkably similar. Similar power, similar weight etc. Similar ethos too. Neither is a looker or has the showroom appeal of an Audi TT say in terms of its interior but they both prioritise driving enjoyment over everything else and the fundamentals like the driving position, seats, pedals, steering wheel and gearchange are all essentially `right` by all accounts (I have sat in an Integra but not a GT86 or BRZ yet).
To me, the Integra somehow seems more `special`and exclusive and would likely have the superior drivetrain. The GT86/BRZ however does have that RWD handling balance and although I have been unimpressed with the gutless nature of NA Subaru engines in the past (I like my Subarus with phenomenal traction and turbocharged shove), nearly 100bhp/ litre from an NA engine isn`t too shabby! It's certainly one of the few new cars that I could reasonably afford that appeals to me.
Taking purchase price out of the equation then (as the price difference is significant), which would you rather own?
sandman77 said:
Seriously, would anybody, if offered, choose the Honda over the Toyota?
Not so clear cut for me. The Honda is faster and lighter and revs to 8000rpm and has a mechanical rather than an electronic LSD. The rear seats are also more useable too but then you`re probably not going to buy a car like this for the rear seats!Neither and a 370z, if i'm honest.
I love the DC2, but I can't justify it, and IMO look dated.
The GT86 is a great WANT ONE kind of car, but with the same amount or torque as mine, I can't justify it without turbocharging it, which causes problems on it's own.
370z seems to be a nice mix of grunt, and a sports car feel.
Is were trawling around on the used market though, Would look long and hard at a TVR
I love the DC2, but I can't justify it, and IMO look dated.
The GT86 is a great WANT ONE kind of car, but with the same amount or torque as mine, I can't justify it without turbocharging it, which causes problems on it's own.
370z seems to be a nice mix of grunt, and a sports car feel.
Is were trawling around on the used market though, Would look long and hard at a TVR
white_goodman said:
Not so clear cut for me. The Honda is faster and lighter and revs to 8000rpm and has a mechanical rather than an electronic LSD. The rear seats are also more useable too but then you`re probably not going to buy a car like this for the rear seats!
I thought the GT86 used a Torsen LSD - that's mechanical, is it not?
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