VAT on new cars
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liner33

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233 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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I presume that when you buy a new car the dealer sends the VAT element off to the taxman.

When you finance, lease or pcp the purchase the consumer pays the vat as a part of the loan and therefore monthly , does the taxman then get the vat element monthly or on one lump sum from the dealer just the same as if the car was purchased outright ?

confused_buyer

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212 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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The finance company purchases the car from the dealer for the full amount including VAT. The dealer then pays the VAT to HMRC.

The finance company then normally reclaims the VAT on the car purchase but charges VAT on the hire charges to the user which they then pay to HMRC as invoiced.

This is assuming it is a new, VAT qualifying car.

At least that is how it used to be.

liner33

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Monday 23rd March 2015
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confused_buyer said:
The finance company purchases the car from the dealer for the full amount including VAT. The dealer then pays the VAT to HMRC.

The finance company then normally reclaims the VAT on the car purchase but charges VAT on the hire charges to the user which they then pay to HMRC as invoiced.

This is assuming it is a new, VAT qualifying car.

At least that is how it used to be.
ahh but that would mean that cars that are financed have vat applied twice , is that correct ?

Vixpy1

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295 months

Monday 23rd March 2015
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liner33 said:
confused_buyer said:
The finance company purchases the car from the dealer for the full amount including VAT. The dealer then pays the VAT to HMRC.

The finance company then normally reclaims the VAT on the car purchase but charges VAT on the hire charges to the user which they then pay to HMRC as invoiced.

This is assuming it is a new, VAT qualifying car.

At least that is how it used to be.
ahh but that would mean that cars that are financed have vat applied twice , is that correct ?
No because the finance company would then claim the vat they paid to the dealer back from HMRC

confused_buyer

7,143 posts

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Monday 23rd March 2015
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liner33 said:
ahh but that would mean that cars that are financed have vat applied twice , is that correct ?
Nope, on the contrary HMRC are only getting the VAT element in stages over the lease period so are reducing the total amount the finance company has to finance.

When finance companies were first able to reclaim the VAT on the car about 20 or so years ago lease payments did drop.

Obviously when the finance company dispose of the car 20% of the proceeds will be VAT so will be paid to HMRC.

liner33

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Monday 23rd March 2015
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Ok thats clear , many thanks