Puncture repair on tyre with 2mm depth?
Puncture repair on tyre with 2mm depth?
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bridgland

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513 posts

245 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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Found my wife had a puncture today and took it to one of the national tyre and exhaust companies near me (rhymes with slickgit), as they are one of the few open on a Sunday. The tyre in question has just over 2mm as are all of the others which are worn almost identically and equally across the tread. When they inspected the car, they did the classic check on all of the tyres and then said that due to safety rules with this company, they were unable to repair the puncture. I have since looked at their web site and there isn't any mention of this internal rule, so I can assume they were getting ready to try and fleece me.

My wife generally does very low miles a week with low speeds and local travel and the large miles that we used to do with her car are done in mine, so the chances of a blowout causing a major issue are massively unlikely. She expected these tyres to give us at least another couple months of service.

Assuming there are no rules on not repairing tyres that are still legal, they felt it was better for me to leave with a nail in the tyre, rather than suck it up, get me to sign a disclaimer and fix the tyre.

BTW - We have another car to use, so new set of tyres are ordered for home fitment, but with Blackcircles.com, which were so much cheaper.

B'stard Child

30,686 posts

267 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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bridgland said:
Found my wife had a puncture today and took it to one of the national tyre and exhaust companies near me (rhymes with slickgit), as they are one of the few open on a Sunday. The tyre in question has just over 2mm as are all of the others which are worn almost identically and equally across the tread. When they inspected the car, they did the classic check on all of the tyres and then said that due to safety rules with this company, they were unable to repair the puncture. I have since looked at their web site and there isn't any mention of this internal rule, so I can assume they were getting ready to try and fleece me.

My wife generally does very low miles a week with low speeds and local travel and the large miles that we used to do with her car are done in mine, so the chances of a blowout causing a major issue are massively unlikely. She expected these tyres to give us at least another couple months of service.

Assuming there are no rules on not repairing tyres that are still legal, they felt it was better for me to leave with a nail in the tyre, rather than suck it up, get me to sign a disclaimer and fix the tyre.

BTW - We have another car to use, so new set of tyres are ordered for home fitment, but with Blackcircles.com, which were so much cheaper.
m2pw - It's winter - 2mm of depth all round and you aren't considering replacement because your wife does very few miles - you sure she's a keeper?

Yes I know you've ordered new Tyres biggrin

bitchstewie

63,047 posts

231 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I know it's fashionable to knock quick fit type places but a 2mm tyre is like 95% worn - it may be legal to repair but that doesn't mean it's sensible.

B'stard Child

30,686 posts

267 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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swerni said:
Sounds like they're showing common sense and you're being tight.
With the recent heavy rain and the impending cold spell, I would want my wife driving with only 2mm of tread.
Another one that's not a keeper wink

bridgland

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Sunday 10th January 2016
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B'stard Child said:
m2pw - It's winter - 2mm of depth all round and you aren't considering replacement because your wife does very few miles - you sure she's a keeper?

Yes I know you've ordered new Tyres biggrin
A keeper? Yes. That's why she is using the other car and I'm building up the brownie points, by thinking of her safety.... angel

B'stard Child

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Sunday 10th January 2016
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bridgland said:
B'stard Child said:
m2pw - It's winter - 2mm of depth all round and you aren't considering replacement because your wife does very few miles - you sure she's a keeper?

Yes I know you've ordered new Tyres biggrin
A keeper? Yes. That's why she is using the other car and I'm building up the brownie points, by thinking of her safety.... angel
Yeah - but seriously would you have wasted £10-20 on a repair on tyres that are well past their best if they had said sure we can repair it?

bridgland

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513 posts

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Sunday 10th January 2016
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bhstewie said:
I know it's fashionable to knock quick fit type places but a 2mm tyre is like 95% worn - it may be legal to repair but that doesn't mean it's sensible.
95% worn would mean that tyres have 4cm tread depth when new! 80% worn maybe, but local low speed driving in a 4WD isn't a high risk and life threatening choice to make. My point is that if it is legal and they are still unhappy with it, while my wife is, then a disclaimer would be more acceptable for all concerned.

How many people would really change the tyres when they are still legal depth?

Riley Blue

22,813 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I replace tyres at 3mm, does any one else?

Theophany

1,069 posts

151 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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The tightness of some people utterly astounds me. I'd call troll if it wasn't depressingly believable.

bridgland

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513 posts

245 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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B'stard Child said:
Yeah - but seriously would you have wasted £10-20 on a repair on tyres that are well past their best if they had said sure we can repair it?
Yes, while I took time to evaluate new tyres, which is what I did. I have saved significantly more than that with the research I did when I got home.

bitchstewie

63,047 posts

231 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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bridgland said:
bhstewie said:
I know it's fashionable to knock quick fit type places but a 2mm tyre is like 95% worn - it may be legal to repair but that doesn't mean it's sensible.
95% worn would mean that tyres have 4cm tread depth when new! 80% worn maybe, but local low speed driving in a 4WD isn't a high risk and life threatening choice to make. My point is that if it is legal and they are still unhappy with it, while my wife is, then a disclaimer would be more acceptable for all concerned.

How many people would really change the tyres when they are still legal depth?
OK maths isn't my strongpoint but I would and do change tyres way before the legal limit.

Do I measure them to be able to say at what point? Nope, rule of thumb more than anything else, but I've ran tyres down to 2mm in the past and seeing what 2mm looked like on a tyre when it's off is an eye opener into just what's keeping you on the road and that's before you get into the cold, the wet, and the coming frosts and snow, albeit that's just a personal opinion.

Sorry but I think you're having a go at them for showing common sense - businesses don't have to accept custom.

V8RX7

28,982 posts

284 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I'm with the OP - it's MY car, MY tyre and MY decision.

It isn't remotely illegal nor does it have any effect on road safety.

Similarly why don't all garages refuse to fix any car without ABS or ESP to get these dangerous cars off the roads... FFS !

Barchettaman

7,060 posts

153 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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Not a problem. 2mm all round is only going to be dangerous in the wet, and it never rains in the UK in winter.


vanordinaire

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183 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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Riley Blue said:
I replace tyres at 3mm, does any one else?
I change over to winters about mid November, which I run till March. New they are about 8mm and down to 6 by spring, I then run the same ones the next winter and by spring they are about 4mm when they get chucked. I put new summers on in March and they are down to about 3 to 4mm by November when they get chucked. If they weren't getting changed for the season anyway I might leave them a little longer but I'd never actually refit anything with less than 4mm.

Theophany

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151 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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V8RX7 said:
I'm with the OP - it's MY car, MY tyre and MY decision.

It isn't remotely illegal nor does it have any effect on road safety.

Similarly why don't all garages refuse to fix any car without ABS or ESP to get these dangerous cars off the roads... FFS !
Christ on a bike. You're talking about repairing a tyre with less rubber than a fking condom. At least if the latter breaks you can get a pill to sort it out.

bridgland

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Sunday 10th January 2016
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Theophany said:
The tightness of some people utterly astounds me. I'd call troll if it wasn't depressingly believable.
Just a couple of points. I wanted a safe car to drive home with, so asked for the repair to be done, but due to them refusing, they have actually left me with an unsafe car. Being honest, this is my wife's car that she looks after, so I would have realised at some point soon (i.e. when it gets a wash) that they would have been close to the legal limit and, if the puncture hadn't happened, I wouldn't have been any the wiser.

Final note - as originally noted, the tyres are ordered and on their way....

anonymous-user

75 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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Riley Blue said:
I replace tyres at 3mm, does any one else?
Me too

It's well documented that a tyres performance declines significantly from 3mm. Why would anyone be happy using tyres that are beyond their optimum performance?

Crazy imho smile

Smokehead

7,703 posts

249 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I'd just go to the local tyre chap and have a part worn thrown on for a tenner

f1nn

2,694 posts

213 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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I'm all for personal choice and all of that but really...repairing a tyre that has 0.4mm until it becomes illegal..that's bonkers.

Theophany

1,069 posts

151 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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bridgland said:
Just a couple of points. I wanted a safe car to drive home with, so asked for the repair to be done, but due to them refusing, they have actually left me with an unsafe car. Being honest, this is my wife's car that she looks after, so I would have realised at some point soon (i.e. when it gets a wash) that they would have been close to the legal limit and, if the puncture hadn't happened, I wouldn't have been any the wiser.

Final note - as originally noted, the tyres are ordered and on their way....
I get where you're coming from, but the fact is you let the tyres get down to a near legal limit and then get arsey when one gets punctured and the garage doesn't repair it. If it was the height of summer, I could understand it more, but given the seasonally poor weather in this country it seems rather daft you've let them get this low, regardless of your wife's driving style. 2mm of standing water is hardly a rare sight at the moment.