Alfa 159? Where'd they go?
Alfa 159? Where'd they go?
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giblets_

Original Poster:

283 posts

140 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Was looking for some Alfas on autotrader earlier and I noticed, in all of the U.K. there are only 7 159 Diesel Autos for sale? Why is this? Are they really that bad and unreliable?

giblets_

Original Poster:

283 posts

140 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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No idea why I posted this in here... Can a mod move to general gassing

Zombie

1,613 posts

224 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Probably because the diesel was rarely specced with the auto option ticked.

Vitorio

4,296 posts

172 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Zombie said:
Probably because the diesel was rarely specced with the auto option ticked.
This i imagine, Alfa never really put a lot of effort in autos, and in the previous generation to the 159, the selespeed even had a bit of a dubious rep, it wasnt too bad, but when it goes pop, its a very expensive job. The 159 also predates alfa/FPT getting a proper twin clutch DSG style auto box (called TCT in the mito/giulietta)

davebem

747 posts

206 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Not sure why there are not many, the 159s in the UK didnt get selespeed. The 159s had the Aisin setup you get in ford, volvos and mazda.

Equus

16,980 posts

130 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Zombie said:
Probably because the diesel was rarely specced with the auto option ticked.
This. In fact the auto was a fairly rare option, period, simply 'because Alfa Romeo'.

I quite fancied a 159 estate at one point, but I really can't be arsed with clutch pedals in my daily drivers any more: auto 159 estates are like hen's teeth, and I was worried that the lack of demand would mean it might not be easy to shift on afterwards, either.

giblets_

Original Poster:

283 posts

140 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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I can see what you mean.

There was a lovely 159 Saloon Diesel Auto in white on Autotrader for the good part of about 7 months I think. I called up the dealer and he said they just don't sell due to the Auto and the fact that Alfa's have such a reputation to go bang. He sold it on a few months later for about £1500 less than initial asking..

underphil

1,352 posts

239 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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you buy a diesel for the good economy, but the 159 mpg, especially with the auto is woeful

sjj84

2,396 posts

248 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Equus said:
This. In fact the auto was a fairly rare option, period, simply 'because Alfa Romeo'.

I quite fancied a 159 estate at one point, but I really can't be arsed with clutch pedals in my daily drivers any more: auto 159 estates are like hen's teeth, and I was worried that the lack of demand would mean it might not be easy to shift on afterwards, either.
The lack of autos is the reason I have discounted the 159 estate from my search for a next car, they do look great though don't they!

Meridius

1,608 posts

181 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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They disappear into that alternate dimension where all 7 year old French and Italian cars go.

ZesPak

26,056 posts

225 months

Thursday 15th September 2016
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A bit late to the fold, I had 3 159 diesels over the past 7 years, just sold the last one :'(.

None of them were auto and they were rarely specced as such. They didn't have the best reputation and added significantly to the mpg on the official figures which is not good for company drivers.

Most auto diesels you'll find are the 2.4 Q4 as they could only be had with auto (the regular gearbox wasn't equipped for the torque and 4WD). For my last car, I've specifically bought a 2.4 FWD to avoid the auto.


Meridius said:
They disappear into that alternate dimension where all 7 year old French and Italian cars go.
? I've seen no signs of this. Alfa has a bad history but the French surely make very decent cars these days?
The 159 was a very well built car and over engineered, ask any independent garage.

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
I'll point to the fact where Peugeot and Renault beat every German brand, and Citroën beats all but two.

If reliability really is your thing, go Japanese. But please, by all means, avoid Audi like the plague!.

Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 15th September 10:16