Most pointless LPG conversions?
Most pointless LPG conversions?
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TroubledSoul

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4,669 posts

225 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Thought I'd start a thread on this for a bit of fun after spotting this:
I just found a great car on Auto Trader.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

A 1 litre Micra with LPG! I'm not sure if it's a factory option like those Vauxhalls you sometimes see but even so, what's the point?!

Let's see what you folks have found...

PositronicRay

29,065 posts

214 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Seems odd, make a good London car though.

OldGermanHeaps

5,180 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Why is it pointless? I had an lpg punto that i bought for £800 that was totally dependable and had fuel costs equivelant to 100mpg, it was great for a skint student.

Zad

13,023 posts

267 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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The original converter would never get their investment back though.

Any idea if you can get your CO2 reassessed (for a lower tax band) if you have an LPG conversion?

OldGermanHeaps

5,180 posts

209 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Depends if it was diy, you can do it for £400 on a small car.

TroubledSoul

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4,669 posts

225 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Zad said:
The original converter would never get their investment back though.

Any idea if you can get your CO2 reassessed (for a lower tax band) if you have an LPG conversion?
This. Seems wacky!

eltax91

10,785 posts

237 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Zad said:
The original converter would never get their investment back though.

Any idea if you can get your CO2 reassessed (for a lower tax band) if you have an LPG conversion?
Once converted and on the Lpg register, you apply for a change of fuel type with dvla. My accord is now 'gas bifuel' on th v5 and gets me £10 off my £475 tax bill. hehe

Zad

13,023 posts

267 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Woo! £10! The government really know how to promote cleaner fuels don't they!

Trabi601

4,865 posts

126 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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TroubledSoul said:
Thought I'd start a thread on this for a bit of fun after spotting this:
I just found a great car on Auto Trader.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

A 1 litre Micra with LPG! I'm not sure if it's a factory option like those Vauxhalls you sometimes see but even so, what's the point?!

Let's see what you folks have found...
Definitely not a factory conversion, as it has the nasty 99p filler cap of shame on the side of the car.

Our Alphard has an LPG conversion (it only does 18mpg), but we had a filler put under the rear bumper.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

155 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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There's a Skoda Citigo currently on the Bay of Fleas.

2013 car on about 54k.

Owner claims equivalent of 90mpg In cost terms & it's currently at about £2000.

There's a Smart FourTwo as well........ Thread winner?

Edited by Jim AK on Saturday 17th December 23:18

exelero

2,084 posts

120 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Prius on LPG? biggrin

TroubledSoul

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4,669 posts

225 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Jim AK said:
There's a Skoda Citigo currently on the Bay of Fleas.

2013 car on about 54k.

Owner claims equivalent of 90mpg In cost terms & it's currently at about £2000.

There's a Smart FourTwo as well........ Thread winner?

Edited by Jim AK on Saturday 17th December 23:18
laugh Quite possibly!

Trabi601

4,865 posts

126 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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exelero said:
Prius on LPG? biggrin
Why not? - you'd be getting a cost-equivalency of over 100mpg from a large family hatch. (The Mk2 onward are vast inside)

gazza285

11,240 posts

239 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Citroen Berlingo van. Same tax, as it's classed as a light commercial, tiny tank, 160 mile range, no better on cost on the motorway than the diesel, but much worse to drive.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Any!! they all have that gassy smell and people forget LPG has a lower amount of energy than petrol ,
I guess if you bought a new car do a huge annual mileage and kept it for years it might pay , but people convert old bigger cars and american stuff and do about 3,000miles a year !!!

benjijames28

1,702 posts

123 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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powerstroke said:
Any!! they all have that gassy smell and people forget LPG has a lower amount of energy than petrol ,
I guess if you bought a new car do a huge annual mileage and kept it for years it might pay , but people convert old bigger cars and american stuff and do about 3,000miles a year !!!
Man maths 101

AndySheff

6,935 posts

238 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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powerstroke said:
Any!! they all have that gassy smell and people forget LPG has a lower amount of energy than petrol ,
I guess if you bought a new car do a huge annual mileage and kept it for years it might pay , but people convert old bigger cars and american stuff and do about 3,000miles a year !!!
Yep - seen a few yanks lpg converted. And then the owner drives them 2 or 3000 miles a year ?!

addz86

1,473 posts

217 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Mate of mine had a Mk4 Fiesta 1.3 with LPG, hardly had any boot space due to the huge tank in there.

Zad

13,023 posts

267 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Anything that has a tank in the boot has probably done it on the cheap. Better installations either use a tank that fits in the spare wheel well, or one that fits under the car. They certainly shouldn't smell. Even back in the 1980s, my dad's Mk.5 Cortina never smelled of LPG except for a few minutes when warming up, and it was not even vaguely comparable to the stink of diesel that hangs in the air like... Well you get the idea. Back then you were advised to start them on petrol anyway, for that lovely un-catalysed rich petrolly exhaust smell.

LPG does have a lower density than petrol and diesel (26MJ/l vs 34 and 36 respectively), but it also has a higher equivalent octane rating, allowing for more aggressive timing and higher boost before knocking starts, if you are interested in more "interesting" engines rather than just pure economy. It also (presuming a proper heat exchanger and injector / vapouriser) mixes more efficiently than petrol and diesel which partially offsets the difference. Give me a well converted LPG petrol engine over a dirty clattery soot and NOx spewing diesel any day. But not on a Micra that goes to the supermarket and church once a week.

TroubledSoul

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225 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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addz86 said:
Mate of mine had a Mk4 Fiesta 1.3 with LPG, hardly had any boot space due to the huge tank in there.
laugh

Crazy bugger!