Failed as a man .... (tyre Changing)
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Wife's cousin came to visit today and had a flat tyre. No problem. Out with the spare tyre, will be done in a moment.
Goodness me, I couldn't get the stupid bolts undone. Bent the standard tool, got my mega ratchet set from the garage, still couldn't do it. Sprayed with WD-40, left for 15m and the stupid things still wouldn't move.
Gave up in disgust and we are waiting for the RAC. Sigh.
Not sure if they are just rusted shut (very old car) or I'm just a wimp.
Goodness me, I couldn't get the stupid bolts undone. Bent the standard tool, got my mega ratchet set from the garage, still couldn't do it. Sprayed with WD-40, left for 15m and the stupid things still wouldn't move.
Gave up in disgust and we are waiting for the RAC. Sigh.
Not sure if they are just rusted shut (very old car) or I'm just a wimp.
AndyNetwork said:
I killed three locking nut keys, and ultimately a tyre with some bugger putting the locking nut on with an air gun.
Some people have never heard of torque wrenches
I stand over the tyre fitter and tell him to fit the security nut ONLY by hand, and gently at that, on pain of being beaten to death with a tyre iron.Some people have never heard of torque wrenches
battered said:
I stand over the tyre fitter and tell him to fit the security nut ONLY by hand, and gently at that, on pain of being beaten to death with a tyre iron.
When I buy a car the first thing I replace is the locking wheel nuts , none of my cars have them on, nobody nicks wheels any more and if they do they've got that tool on eBay that gets them off battered said:
NS wheels are LH thread on HGV. Never seen a light car with such.
I have been known to be swinging on an 18" tommy bar without immediate effect, that's why I carry one in the car and check it works when the tyre fitters have been doing it up with a windy gun.
Are you sure about this , maybe on a Bedford or AEC ? I have been known to be swinging on an 18" tommy bar without immediate effect, that's why I carry one in the car and check it works when the tyre fitters have been doing it up with a windy gun.
Well done for at least having a go. Most folk don't in this day and age,most folk don't know how to change a wheel.
It's one of the most common breakdowns for the breakdown companies so don't worry about.
The main thing is you tried but were defeated by the last gorilla that fitted the wheel not your fault most tyre fitters have the finesse of an horny chimpanzee
Or are just trigger happy with the airgun.
It's one of the most common breakdowns for the breakdown companies so don't worry about.
The main thing is you tried but were defeated by the last gorilla that fitted the wheel not your fault most tyre fitters have the finesse of an horny chimpanzee
Or are just trigger happy with the airgun.
fttm said:
battered said:
NS wheels are LH thread on HGV. Never seen a light car with such.
I have been known to be swinging on an 18" tommy bar without immediate effect, that's why I carry one in the car and check it works when the tyre fitters have been doing it up with a windy gun.
Are you sure about this , maybe on a Bedford or AEC ? I have been known to be swinging on an 18" tommy bar without immediate effect, that's why I carry one in the car and check it works when the tyre fitters have been doing it up with a windy gun.
That HGV have left hand threads on the near side? Yes, sure. Some large vans may have this too.
That I have never seen a light car with LH threads on the near side? Absolutely sure.
That no cars exist anywhere with this? Not sure, after all I haven't unscrewed the wheelnuts on every car.
What's the relevance of Bedford and AEC? Both old and new HGVs suffer from wheel nuts coming loose, the fix is LH threads on the NS so that they self tighten, and RH threads on the offside for the same reason. That's why trucks have those yellow pointers on the wheelnuts, the driver is supposed to check they are all pointing at each other every time he stops.
Think about the times when you see caravans with a wheel off. It's never the off side, and I bet it never will be.
battered said:
fttm said:
battered said:
NS wheels are LH thread on HGV. Never seen a light car with such.
I have been known to be swinging on an 18" tommy bar without immediate effect, that's why I carry one in the car and check it works when the tyre fitters have been doing it up with a windy gun.
Are you sure about this , maybe on a Bedford or AEC ? I have been known to be swinging on an 18" tommy bar without immediate effect, that's why I carry one in the car and check it works when the tyre fitters have been doing it up with a windy gun.
That HGV have left hand threads on the near side? Yes, sure. Some large vans may have this too.
That I have never seen a light car with LH threads on the near side? Absolutely sure.
That no cars exist anywhere with this? Not sure, after all I haven't unscrewed the wheelnuts on every car.
What's the relevance of Bedford and AEC? Both old and new HGVs suffer from wheel nuts coming loose, the fix is LH threads on the NS so that they self tighten, and RH threads on the offside for the same reason. That's why trucks have those yellow pointers on the wheelnuts, the driver is supposed to check they are all pointing at each other every time he stops.
Think about the times when you see caravans with a wheel off. It's never the off side, and I bet it never will be.
No modern cars have a left hand thread with the except some of the very high end stuff with center lock wheels
Oh and the flags on some not all HGV mostly depends on company policy weather they have them fitted or not.
As far as I know wheel nuts should be visually checked before each shift. It's easier to see if any movement has occurred with flags fitted and driver doesn't have to get his hands mucky checking 100+ wheelnuts by hand each shift
Edited by shakindog on Monday 2nd January 00:59
Long time since I last changed a wheel. A 7 series BMW at the services I think. Bolt was OK, but the wheel was a git to come unseated.
Since then my wife has specialised in getting flats when I'm out of town. Mixture of local mechanic and AA have got her out of trouble.
I have to say I'm wary. Seem's easy, but can go wrong easily. One of my dad's friend nearly lost fingers when the Panda he was changing a wheel on fell of it's jack. Only a light car and he thought he could save it.... Joggers passing by freed him and called 999.
Always stick the spare/old wheel under the sill is my recommendation.
Since then my wife has specialised in getting flats when I'm out of town. Mixture of local mechanic and AA have got her out of trouble.
I have to say I'm wary. Seem's easy, but can go wrong easily. One of my dad's friend nearly lost fingers when the Panda he was changing a wheel on fell of it's jack. Only a light car and he thought he could save it.... Joggers passing by freed him and called 999.
Always stick the spare/old wheel under the sill is my recommendation.
battered said:
Sure about what bit?
That HGV have left hand threads on the near side? Yes, sure. Some large vans may have this too.
That I have never seen a light car with LH threads on the near side? Absolutely sure.
That no cars exist anywhere with this? Not sure, after all I haven't unscrewed the wheelnuts on every car.
I've owned several cars from Chrysler, in fact there is one sitting in my yard at the moment. Chrysler did have LH threads on the left side of the car for many years, so they made millions of them. It is a trap for young players, and I have bought a 60's Valiant back in the day, and found that the studs were thin in the middle, probably by someone trying to undo them the wrong way.That HGV have left hand threads on the near side? Yes, sure. Some large vans may have this too.
That I have never seen a light car with LH threads on the near side? Absolutely sure.
That no cars exist anywhere with this? Not sure, after all I haven't unscrewed the wheelnuts on every car.
Bit of an explanation here;
http://moparmax.com/columns/magnante/v_5-1.html
I owned a small garage and taxi rental company around 2000, the mechanics told me that any wheel that had been on a car for 5 years could be a real sod to remove and impossible at the roadside, the wheel was corroded to the hub and needed belting with a length of wood from under the car.
Do that at the roadside and the car would be off its jack.
Do that at the roadside and the car would be off its jack.
Robbo 27 said:
I owned a small garage and taxi rental company around 2000, the mechanics told me that any wheel that had been on a car for 5 years could be a real sod to remove and impossible at the roadside, the wheel was corroded to the hub and needed belting with a length of wood from under the car.
Do that at the roadside and the car would be off its jack.
Slacken the fasteners off, put the weight back on the wheel. If it still won't come, then drive a few metres. It'll come.Do that at the roadside and the car would be off its jack.
Foot on strong bar, mate with lump hammer, start hitting the face of the bar like you are trying to hammer the socket onto the nut. Bounce the bar. One of 2 things will happen, it will snap the stud or the nut will come undone. IME 9/10 times the nut will come undone. Make sure you clean it all up before refitting.
As for HGVs with LH thread, not seen any in 20 years.
As for HGVs with LH thread, not seen any in 20 years.
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