LPG Panda Why?
Discussion
Truckosaurus said:
Never underestimate the amount of money people will spend to save a few quid. (See Also: buying a brand new diesel car to potter around town for 5k miles a year)
It's just a horrible thing to put yourself through.Also, by the time you take into account the potential for additional servicing costs and the risk that you won't always be able to find LPG; it becomes even longer than 22 months.
And in a Panda.
Sigh.
t4thomas said:
A saving of about £54.83 a month - taking into account their annual mileage and the anticipated 43mpg returned by the vehicle on a combined cycle before LPG.
Break even on the LPG conversion cost at 22 months.
Imagine being that tight.
there will be a favourable impact to the value of the car when it is sold so its probably lower than 22 months net. If it was say, 18 months net, i could see the attraction if the vehicle was going to be a long term proposition. Some people are extremely tight however, to the extent it becomes almost like a sport, they don't do anything as such with the money saved.Break even on the LPG conversion cost at 22 months.
Imagine being that tight.
given that their driving style will likely be as mean as their vehicle, i wouldn't be surprised if its a 70-80mpg car like for like to petrol.
Don't see the issue here. person wants to save money so they convert a car which (one assumes) they enjoy driving. the more they drive the sooner they'll make a return on it. even once the depriciation is done on a normal car this would have more appeal then a regular one (for the other ones that wana be tight too).
My dad converted his w124 E200 when he got some extra money. the £1k cost of installation meant that he would get the money back within a year given all the miles he does. He doesnt ever plan on selling the vehicle and will probably be his last. at 170kmiles it's going strong.
My dad converted his w124 E200 when he got some extra money. the £1k cost of installation meant that he would get the money back within a year given all the miles he does. He doesnt ever plan on selling the vehicle and will probably be his last. at 170kmiles it's going strong.
I have a had a diesel Panda for 9 years and done 125k miles. I've also just sold a 2005WRX Impreza that I did 70,000 LPG fuelled miles in over 4 years. Bought the Scooby for £3300; the LPG conversion paid for itself in 11 months and I sold it for £2500.
LPG is mod that pays for itself and adds value. Plus if you run out of gas, you still have petrol.
LPG is mod that pays for itself and adds value. Plus if you run out of gas, you still have petrol.
That was one of my main thoughts, the loss of space.
But the only owner has covered only 85000 miles. So what savings at that?
I have considered an LPG powered car but it would be in something like an Outback but in a wee car like a Panda I cannot see the point. It will be more trouble than it's worth.
But the only owner has covered only 85000 miles. So what savings at that?
I have considered an LPG powered car but it would be in something like an Outback but in a wee car like a Panda I cannot see the point. It will be more trouble than it's worth.
When I was at school I had a biology teacher who bought an ancient Vauxhall Astra and had it converted to LPG. The car was so clapped out I can't imagine it lasted long enough for him to break even on the cost of the conversion. He emigrated to New Zealand a short time later, so couldn't have got the cost back in fuel savings himself.
t4thomas said:
A saving of about £54.83 a month - taking into account their annual mileage and the anticipated 43mpg returned by the vehicle on a combined cycle before LPG.
Break even on the LPG conversion cost at 22 months.
Imagine being that tight.
If your figures are accurate then that's approximately 2.5K over the other 4 years they've owned the car.Break even on the LPG conversion cost at 22 months.
Imagine being that tight.
Don't forget as well that a lot of conversions will give you a substantial range as you can switch to petrol.
Theres also a considerable reduction in emissions on the MOT.
I do think LPG is a good way to run a nice engine without crippling fuel bills and kind of agree using it on a panda is a bit tight but it's not without it's advantages.
Edited by JimbobVFR on Thursday 22 June 08:09
t4thomas said:
A saving of about £54.83 a month - taking into account their annual mileage and the anticipated 43mpg returned by the vehicle on a combined cycle before LPG.
Break even on the LPG conversion cost at 22 months.
Imagine being that tight.
So 72 months times 55 quid, even deducting the conversion cost they saved 2500 quid...Break even on the LPG conversion cost at 22 months.
Imagine being that tight.
Why throw 55 quid away each month? Especially on a second car, getting to spend that money on something else wouldnt seem like a bad idea?
Could have felt it was better for the environment rather than expecting it to save money.
Years ago a lot of magazines and newspapers had adverts from gas companies advertising that aspect. Once there was even a government grant to convert your car, wasn't there?
Could this have been paid by a government grant? Then it'd be a win-win situation for the owner. I can't remember when the grants finished
Years ago a lot of magazines and newspapers had adverts from gas companies advertising that aspect. Once there was even a government grant to convert your car, wasn't there?
Could this have been paid by a government grant? Then it'd be a win-win situation for the owner. I can't remember when the grants finished
My kids had a car for in the field at the in laws, it was a Metro diesel, early nineties vintage, in a fetching shade of Police cell blue, bog basic and pretty tired. It was tired as it had 140,000 miles on it, my brother in law got it as a present for my three lads for Christmas one year and presented it to them on a trailer on Christmas Day.
Chatting to him, he had an ulterior motive, he bought it off his neighbour for the kids, but mainly as it was turning green in full view of his living room, not the most attractive sight but the neighbour bought it new, ran it for five years or so up to his retirement and parked it, so he did upwards of 30k a year in a Metro diesel in those years, apparently to make money on his generous company mileage rate, no comfy Vectra or Mondeo for him, a 1.4 litre diesel with 56 bhp as it would do 60 plus to the gallon if driven gently.
Chatting to him, he had an ulterior motive, he bought it off his neighbour for the kids, but mainly as it was turning green in full view of his living room, not the most attractive sight but the neighbour bought it new, ran it for five years or so up to his retirement and parked it, so he did upwards of 30k a year in a Metro diesel in those years, apparently to make money on his generous company mileage rate, no comfy Vectra or Mondeo for him, a 1.4 litre diesel with 56 bhp as it would do 60 plus to the gallon if driven gently.
Mr Taxpayer said:
I have a had a diesel Panda for 9 years and done 125k miles. I've also just sold a 2005WRX Impreza that I did 70,000 LPG fuelled miles in over 4 years. Bought the Scooby for £3300; the LPG conversion paid for itself in 11 months and I sold it for £2500.
LPG is mod that pays for itself and adds value. Plus if you run out of gas, you still have petrol.
Hmmm - interesting. Can I enquire who did the LPG conversion for you? It's something I've often considered but haven't found much information about people doing it to Scooby's.LPG is mod that pays for itself and adds value. Plus if you run out of gas, you still have petrol.
Vitorio said:
So 72 months times 55 quid, even deducting the conversion cost they saved 2500 quid...
Why throw 55 quid away each month? Especially on a second car, getting to spend that money on something else wouldnt seem like a bad idea?
But it's not 72 months, as the advert states the car has been SORN for 2 years as they have a company car now.Why throw 55 quid away each month? Especially on a second car, getting to spend that money on something else wouldnt seem like a bad idea?
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