Advice on MOT test / Warranty Issue
Advice on MOT test / Warranty Issue
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shopper150

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1,583 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Advice on MOT test

I'm looking for some advice here. My car has a MOT protect warranty that states that anything that causes a MOT failure is covered (except wear and tear items). One of my dipped headlights doesn't work. The dealer has passed the MOT, and when they called me to let me know the car was ready, I queried how it passed as the light doesn't work. The receptionist says she would go away and find out. I then receive a call back to say it's not working now but was working at the time of the test and is clearly an intermittent fault. I know for a fact that it's not an intermittent fault, but they are not budging on their position and refuse to put in a warranty claim as the car 'passed'.

Does anyone have any advice on how I should deal with the situation. The headlight is one whole unit and will probably require complete replacement, it's not as simple as just replacing a bulb. I have left the car with them, as I don't want to take possession so that they can allege I have tampered with it, or it's intermittent etc.

djt100

1,741 posts

215 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Take it back for a new mot and stay and watch it being completed, then when it doesn't work you sorted, You'll have to stump up for the mot though

shopper150

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1,583 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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They are refusing to do another MOT as it would be 'illegal'??

Magic919

14,553 posts

231 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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And they wouldn't lie about it.

twing

5,812 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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shopper150 said:
They are refusing to do another MOT as it would be 'illegal'??
Nonsense, you can MOT your vehicle as often as you want. VOSA will be helpful and probably quite interested too.

tomtom

4,265 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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I had something similar on my old M3 at its last MOT. I knew the sidelights didn't work as the bulbs needed changing so I'd asked the dealer to do them before the MOT as it was a fiddly job and I didn't have time to do it. It passed the MOT (somehow) and they claimed the lights were working when they did the test. I arrived to get the car and they weren't working... They swapped the bulbs for free after I made a bit of a fuss.

shopper150

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1,583 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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twing said:
shopper150 said:
They are refusing to do another MOT as it would be 'illegal'??
Nonsense, you can MOT your vehicle as often as you want. VOSA will be helpful and probably quite interested too.
I asked them again, they are saying they will not do that to make it fail again.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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I'm not sure what car you have, but my local VW dealer charges about £2.50 for a bulb and fit them free of charge.

If it was something like a damper or a major chassis component then fine, but you are literally fighting this over a couple of quid?
Unless I have misunderstood, of course.

Is it the bulb, or the wiring?

Magic919

14,553 posts

231 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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I'm guessing the headlight doesn't use a £2 bulb.

shopper150

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1,583 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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I did state that the headlight comes as a whole unit, you can't change the bulb.

FiF

48,866 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Slightly confusing opening post.

You knew the dipped headlight on one side doesn't work, submitted it for a test. Was there some instruction to the garage about this, or?

Suggested it needs a full unit replacement, what vehicle is it, just out of interest.

Are there any exclusions on the MOT warranty?

E.g. I had an mot warranty, but prior to the first mot the handbrake mechanism was sticking, I didn't expect this to be covered so freed the brakes off and lubricated accordingly. But then I was being reasonable, plus knowing how that dealer farts about time wasting over any warranty work just wanted it to pass first time.

shopper150

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1,583 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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I didnt mention the fault when I dropped the car off, perhaps I should have.
It's not a cheap resolution or a matter of inconvenience and hence I need it covered under the warranty (which it is and should be).

Can anyone clarify, if a vehicle has failed a MOT, can the fault be rectified, and then can the vehicle be taken to another testing centre for a fresh MOT (not a retest). I understand there will be two test charges.

Saleen836

12,510 posts

239 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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What car is it that has a complete sealed headlight where you can't replace a bulb?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Saleen836 said:
What car is it that has a complete sealed headlight where you can't replace a bulb?
Apart from some of the audi units (the DRL not the bulb) I can't think of any.

Op what car do you have.

shopper150

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1,583 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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BMW with Adaptive LED.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

148 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Yeah fair enough those are complex.
Is the car not under a warranty?

MOT unfortunately are only valid "at that snapshot" so the bulb may have blown moving it out of the MOT bay sir.....

Bit dirty of them.

shopper150

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Thursday 22nd June 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Yeah fair enough those are complex.
Is the car not under a warranty?

MOT unfortunately are only valid "at that snapshot" so the bulb may have blown moving it out of the MOT bay sir.....

Bit dirty of them.
Unfortunately it's not under warranty.
Technically the car has not passed anyway due to tyre issues. In my OP I said it's passed for simplicity. So I'm wondering whether a completely fresh MOT test (not a retest) will allow for a valid claim. The dealer is not being very helpful, in fact, quite the opposite.


Edited by shopper150 on Thursday 22 June 19:51

talksthetorque

10,821 posts

165 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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You can appeal an MOT test. DVSA forms here

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/complai...

Like another poster said If you think they are issuing MOT passes for cars that should fail because it's going to cost them money, then DVSA would be very interested.


shopper150

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Thursday 22nd June 2017
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talksthetorque said:
You can appeal an MOT test. DVSA forms here

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/complai...

Like another poster said If you think they are issuing MOT passes for cars that should fail because it's going to cost them money, then DVSA would be very interested.
Done already. Doesn't help me get my headlamp sorted!

FiF

48,866 posts

281 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Does the MOT warranty only apply if the BMW dealer does the test? If so and in the context of your problem sounds a bit sketchy tbh.