SEAT LEON LOCKING SYSTEM DANGER TO OCCUPANTS

[Stevorocket]

WARNING from the car manual

Do not leave anyone (especially children) in the vehicle if it is locked fromthe outside and the anti-theft security system* is enabled, as the doors and windows cannot then be opened from the inside. Locked doors could delay assistance in an emergency, potentially putting lives at risk.

This happened to my sister today when her husband locked the car by habit taking the keys with him to visit a shop around the corner.

Luckily it was a cool day with no sunshine.

She couldn't open either the doors or windows and the horn did not work either!

The lock works by one press of the fob setting it so that nothing can be opened from
The interior of the car.

2 presses on the button means you can open the doors and windows from inside, exactly the opposite of what should happen for safety sake!

[Fore Left]

Shouldn't the thread title be NOT READING THE fkING MANUAL DANGER TO OCCUPANTS?

[Rick101]

Always a good idea to read the manual.

[cuprabob]

Normally a message comes up in the display reminding you of the deadlocks when you switch off/ pull the key out. It does on both the Scirocco and Up so I would have thought the Leon would be the same.

Surprised the interior movement didn't trigger the alarm.

[anonymous-user]

When your turn the ignition off on a modern volkswagen it warns about 'Safelock' which is where once locked you cannot open the windows and doors from the inside.

A quick google search reveals that all seats also display "Check, safelock!" when you turn the ignition off.

Considering you hadn't read the manual of the car or realised that the car warns you of the system EVERYTIME you turn the ignition off I'm sure you feel foolish so I'm not gunna insult.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 29th June 07:32

[anonymous-user]

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 28th June 20:46

[cuprabob]

DSGbangs said:

When your turn the ignition off on a modern volkswagen it warns about 'Safelock' which is where once locked you cannot open the windows and doors from the inside.

A quick google search reveals that all seats also display "Check, safelock!" when you turn the ignition off.

For future reference this can be disabled by holding the car button that is on the right hand side pillar at the bottom near the bottom of the seat should you be locked inside.

Considering you hadn't read the manual of the car or realised that the car warns you of the system EVERYTIME you turn the ignition off I'm sure you feel foolish so I'm not gunna insult.

I thought the button on the B pillar just disabled the interior sensors so you could leave pets on the car without triggering the alarm. I didn't think it disabled the deadlocks and that you had to click twice on the keyfob to do that.

[Mound Dawg]

Happens to me all the time (see the Faffing thread in the Lounge).

Mrs D takes ages to get out of the car by which time I'm standing far enough away that she's locked in.

[Rick101]

Quality. That'll teach her!

Arrived home on bike same time as she pulled up in car yesterday. Off bike, uncliped panniers. Find keys, open garage, helmet gloves off, put away. Bike put away. Closed garage, locked garage. Waked unto house.....and and she is only just getting out of the car! What do they do?

[Mound Dawg]

Rick101 said:

Quality. That'll teach her!

Sadly no.

Been together 25 years now and it's always been the same, just that technology been what it was back then I just had to stand in the road with the key in the door waiting for her to stop bloody faffing and get out of the damned car!

[anonymous-user]

Deadlocking has been around for circa 20 years on mainstream cars, nothing new or unusual.

[Alucidnation]

No it isn't but many, as said, only deadlock with two button presses.

Why vag insist on it functioning with one press is anyone's guess.

[Drive Blind]

RTFM

plus the safelock warning pops up everytime you take the key out the ignition.

[Ray Luxury-Yacht]

Not wishing to belittle the OP's concern - but as other posters have mentioned, anyone with a VAG vehicle who has bothered to read the manual, would understand the deadlocking procedure and avoid this.

In addition, as has also been said - the instrument display also reminds you to check the feature when you shut the vehicle down. It does so on my Skoda Octavia...

I can also confirm that the switch on the B pillar deactivates the internal movement sensors.

[anonymous-user]

I stand corrected on the B pillar switch chap, after a quick google you guys are spot on

[mwstewart]

Quick! Sue them! Those dangerous dead locks must be removed.

Next post: SEAT SECURITY SYSTEM INADEQUATE!!!!11!!

My 1993 Fiesta had deadlocks so they aren't a new thing.

[essayer]

I had a Leon for two years and never knew what that Safelock warning was about!

Although I did know it had deadlocks, in line with pretty much every car for the last 20+ years

[TooMany2cvs]

So, basically, electric windows don't work with the ignition off, and deadlocks deadlock the doors.

I'm horrified.

[heebeegeetee]

Fore Left said:

Shouldn't the thread title be NOT READING THE fkING MANUAL DANGER TO OCCUPANTS?

Not all cars come with a manual. Apart from manuals getting lost, hire cars don't have them ime.

If what the op says is true, that is dangerous. Sounds like yet another solution to a problem that doesn't exist, sounds like needless complexity to me.

[TooMany2cvs]

heebeegeetee said:

If what the op says is true, that is dangerous. Sounds like yet another solution to a problem that doesn't exist, sounds like needless complexity to me.

You know why cars have had deadlocks for a quarter of a century? So that scrotes can't break a window, reach in, and just open the door from the inside handle.

Now, which is the bigger risk? That kind of theft, or halfwits locking each other into the car?

Why on earth would you lock a car with somebody in it, even without taking the deadlock and alarm into account? Why even take the key out the ignition, if SWMBO's staying in the passenger seat?