Imported car date of registration v date of manufacture
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Hi guys wonder if someone can help.
I have imported from Japan a car that was built in the UK in 1999 for export to Japan. It was sold by the main dealer as a brand new car in Japan in June 2002 this is stated on the Japanese export certificate as date of first registration.
When filling in the V55/5 with the DVLA to register it in the UK it asks two questions what’s the year of manufacture and what was the date of first registration.
What plate should this go onto? A 1999 “T” or a 2002 “02”
I think the car should go onto an 02 plate as the car was sold as a brand new car in 2002 (actually have a copy of the advert stating new)
Any experience with this would be appreciated
Chris
I have imported from Japan a car that was built in the UK in 1999 for export to Japan. It was sold by the main dealer as a brand new car in Japan in June 2002 this is stated on the Japanese export certificate as date of first registration.
When filling in the V55/5 with the DVLA to register it in the UK it asks two questions what’s the year of manufacture and what was the date of first registration.
What plate should this go onto? A 1999 “T” or a 2002 “02”
I think the car should go onto an 02 plate as the car was sold as a brand new car in 2002 (actually have a copy of the advert stating new)
Any experience with this would be appreciated
Chris
chris52 said:
I have imported from Japan a car that was built in the UK in 1999 for export to Japan. It was sold by the main dealer as a brand new car in Japan in June 2002 this is stated on the Japanese export certificate as date of first registration.
When filling in the V55/5 with the DVLA to register it in the UK it asks two questions what’s the year of manufacture and what was the date of first registration.
What plate should this go onto? A 1999 “T” or a 2002 “02”
I think the car should go onto an 02 plate as the car was sold as a brand new car in 2002 (actually have a copy of the advert stating new)
If you register it with DVLA using the Japanese export certificate as proof of ID/age, then they'll put it as the Japanese date of first reg.When filling in the V55/5 with the DVLA to register it in the UK it asks two questions what’s the year of manufacture and what was the date of first registration.
What plate should this go onto? A 1999 “T” or a 2002 “02”
I think the car should go onto an 02 plate as the car was sold as a brand new car in 2002 (actually have a copy of the advert stating new)
If you register it with DVLA using some other proof of ID/age (manufacturer/V765 club certificate), then they'll put 1999.
Had a similar situation last summer where I used to work. We reg'd a brand new Zenos and it came back on a 17 plate as you would expect, then did some more in September expecting them to come back on 67 plates and they came back on 65s!
You know that bit on the reg doc where it says "Declared new at first registration by manufacturer / importer" well if it's not the manufacturer / importer doing the declaring then they go off the build year that you give them. In our case we told them 2016 (correctly) for the later cars and Jan 2016 would have been a 65 plate.
I can't remember whether they ask for any supporting documentation to prove the build date that you choose to give them.
Oddly we also had an original shape Range Rover that had been re-imported from Japan. Didn't they finish in 1991ish, but this one was on an L reg that would suggest 1993.
From this admittedly anecdotal experience, I would suggest that if you put the build year in as 1999 you run the risk of getting an S/T/V plate but if you put 02 in ignorance or error then DVLA might not seek to verify it and you may get a 51/02/52 plate.
Question is though, does it matter? At that age I would have thought the value is more about the condition, spec and history than in the number plate? What kind of car is it?
You know that bit on the reg doc where it says "Declared new at first registration by manufacturer / importer" well if it's not the manufacturer / importer doing the declaring then they go off the build year that you give them. In our case we told them 2016 (correctly) for the later cars and Jan 2016 would have been a 65 plate.
I can't remember whether they ask for any supporting documentation to prove the build date that you choose to give them.
Oddly we also had an original shape Range Rover that had been re-imported from Japan. Didn't they finish in 1991ish, but this one was on an L reg that would suggest 1993.
From this admittedly anecdotal experience, I would suggest that if you put the build year in as 1999 you run the risk of getting an S/T/V plate but if you put 02 in ignorance or error then DVLA might not seek to verify it and you may get a 51/02/52 plate.
Question is though, does it matter? At that age I would have thought the value is more about the condition, spec and history than in the number plate? What kind of car is it?
Wooda80 said:
From this admittedly anecdotal experience, I would suggest that if you put the build year in as 1999 you run the risk of getting an S/T/V plate but if you put 02 in ignorance or error then DVLA might not seek to verify it and you may get a 51/02/52 plate.
Different situation, though. It's a used vehicle being registered on a V55/5, rather than a new vehicle being registered on a V55/1 or /2. The build date is irrelevant, since they ask for the original first reg date.TooMany2cvs said:
Wooda80 said:
From this admittedly anecdotal experience, I would suggest that if you put the build year in as 1999 you run the risk of getting an S/T/V plate but if you put 02 in ignorance or error then DVLA might not seek to verify it and you may get a 51/02/52 plate.
Different situation, though. It's a used vehicle being registered on a V55/5, rather than a new vehicle being registered on a V55/1 or /2. The build date is irrelevant, since they ask for the original first reg date.And off the original topic, but it resulted in the cars having a first reg date of 2017 but 65 plates. We asked for clarification with a view to somehow getting them put onto 67s but sold them anyway before it was resolved.
Which comes back to the question if it's old. rare or specialist stuff then how much does the plate matter?
My car was built in USA in November 2014, personally imported to UK and registered in UK in February 2015.
The V5 says,
"Date of first registration in UK" : 12 February 2015 (That's what the number plate reflects)
and
"Date of first registration" : 1 January 2005 (sic). Presumably this is used by DVLA to fill the box when they don't have a better answer!
The V5 says,
"Date of first registration in UK" : 12 February 2015 (That's what the number plate reflects)
and
"Date of first registration" : 1 January 2005 (sic). Presumably this is used by DVLA to fill the box when they don't have a better answer!
chris52 said:
Hi guys wonder if someone can help.
I have imported from Japan a car that was built in the UK in 1999 for export to Japan. It was sold by the main dealer as a brand new car in Japan in June 2002 this is stated on the Japanese export certificate as date of first registration.
When filling in the V55/5 with the DVLA to register it in the UK it asks two questions what’s the year of manufacture and what was the date of first registration.
What plate should this go onto? A 1999 “T” or a 2002 “02”
I think the car should go onto an 02 plate as the car was sold as a brand new car in 2002 (actually have a copy of the advert stating new)
Any experience with this would be appreciated
Chris
May be worth trying to get it on the 99/T plate on the basis that the RFL may be less than it is for an emission-based 2002 car, especially if it's some sort of guzzler. I have imported from Japan a car that was built in the UK in 1999 for export to Japan. It was sold by the main dealer as a brand new car in Japan in June 2002 this is stated on the Japanese export certificate as date of first registration.
When filling in the V55/5 with the DVLA to register it in the UK it asks two questions what’s the year of manufacture and what was the date of first registration.
What plate should this go onto? A 1999 “T” or a 2002 “02”
I think the car should go onto an 02 plate as the car was sold as a brand new car in 2002 (actually have a copy of the advert stating new)
Any experience with this would be appreciated
Chris
Thanks Guys
The car is a TVR Griffith 500 it was the 1999 Tokyo Motor Show car but was not registered or sold until 2002 by TVR Japan as a brand new car when they lost the import rights for TVR. I have a copy of the original advert from 2002 stating The Last New TVR Griffith to be sold in Japan and possibly one of the last new none SE TVR Griffiths to be sold. The car will come under PLG whatever year its registered as the last 100 Se Griffs sold here in 2003/3 were all registered as PLG. If it goes onto a 99T etc it will lose some of its story/provenance not that that's particularly important to me as I will be keeping the car but it would be nice to have it at the correct reg date. i will send in the docs and see what happens.
Many thanks for your help
Chris
The car is a TVR Griffith 500 it was the 1999 Tokyo Motor Show car but was not registered or sold until 2002 by TVR Japan as a brand new car when they lost the import rights for TVR. I have a copy of the original advert from 2002 stating The Last New TVR Griffith to be sold in Japan and possibly one of the last new none SE TVR Griffiths to be sold. The car will come under PLG whatever year its registered as the last 100 Se Griffs sold here in 2003/3 were all registered as PLG. If it goes onto a 99T etc it will lose some of its story/provenance not that that's particularly important to me as I will be keeping the car but it would be nice to have it at the correct reg date. i will send in the docs and see what happens.
Many thanks for your help
Chris
KevinCamaroSS said:
My last Camaro was built in 2009 (one of the first SS), registered in Canada in 2010, exported to UAE and registered there in 2012, registered in Germany in 2014. DVLA went for 2009/09 despite having the Canadian registration.
What did the German papers give as a first reg date?chris52 said:
The car will come under PLG whatever year its registered as the last 100 Se Griffs sold here in 2003/3 were all registered as PLG.
I think you mean it will be on non-CO2 taxed, £245/yr. Yep, it will, as you don't have a CoC giving the official figure for that exact car or any paperwork showing the official CO2 for it.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff