RE: Shed of the Week: Fiat Panda 100HP

RE: Shed of the Week: Fiat Panda 100HP

Friday 15th June 2018

Shed of the Week: Fiat Panda 100HP

Fiat's tall supermini is a hoot - and outrageous value at Shed money...



Thanks to the internet, everyone's an expert. The democratisation of data means that the days of picking up stupidly cheap cars from unsuspecting sellers are probably over.

Of course, nobody was ever going to pick up a barnfind Bugatti Royale for fifty quid, or a 250 GTO with a broken headlight at best offers around £295, but nowadays even mildly exciting bargains are about as common as a politician's apology. Everything is accurately priced now, based on a combination of widely-available knowledge and what everyone else is asking.

Today's Shed might be the exception that proves the rule. It's a Fiat Panda, but not just any old Fiat Panda: this is a 2007 Panda 100HP in apparently good nick with a reasonable mileage, long MOT - and an unfeasibly low price of £975. Even on eBay, the normal asking price for a similar example would be twice that. Knock a few miles off the odo and you could easily triple it.


The Sheffield garage selling this one says it will not be beaten on price, and for once that could be true if there are no skeletons rattling in this particular car's cupboard. There almost certainly will be a degree of actual rattling as these 100HPs are famous for their bone-crumblingly stiff suspension - 25 percent stiffer than the regular Panda. The upside of that rollerskate ride however is roller-derby rumbustiousness on the road.

For the full griff on what is good and what is not so good about the 100HP, we can do no better than to refer you to Al Suttie's comprehensive guide here. In short though, the 100HP is a metal version of Taz, the Tasmanian devil character in the Looney Tunes cartoons. For them as don't know, Taz was a fierce little creature capable of generating a dusty vortex by spinning on the spot before shooting off at high speed. To satisfy his insatiable appetite, he would devour anything in his path.

That pretty much sums up the 100HP, a rolling riot of a thing that is guaranteed to fill your heart with gladness and take away your sadness on the very glummest of glum days. It's built on a good base. The cooking Mk2 Panda was designed for the cut and thrust of Italian city life: European hire fleet managers will confirm its ability take all kinds of abuse all day long and still come up smelling of fettucine. The 100HP's um 100hp 1.4 engine moves the Panda up to the next level, wrapping a kernel of genuine performance snugly inside that tough little shell. Like Iron Man fresh off the mains.


100hp might not sound much, but in a 975kg car it's more than enough to move things along at what seems like a crazy rate. Statistically, the rate actually isn't that crazy, but you'll be too busy laughing and saying 'ow' as you go over another carelessly-discarded matchstick to worry about any of that.

You probably wouldn't be interested in a 100HP if most of your driving takes place on motorways and/or terrible roads, and you'll be battling with understeer if you insist on trackdaying it, but if it's a B-roads blaster you're after you could do an awful lot worse. Plus you can soften things up quite a bit by swapping out the too-long rear bumpstops for Fiat Coupé ones.

The MOT history suggests it's been correctly driven as per the manufacturer's brief, ie hard. Most of the testers' comments over the last five years have related to worn brakes, suspension and tyres. A leaky exhaust was sorted out at the end of last year. That's a common failure on these.


Both the engine and the 6-speed box are robust. You just need to keep your eye on oil levels, and don't stint on the changes. The ESP acronym doesn't appear anywhere in the ad's typical blizzard of garage-speak, suggesting that this £440 option box wasn't ticked at the ordering stage. That's not necessarily a bad thing as history indicates that 'reliable automotive electrics' and 'Italian' were rarely seen together in the same room. Shed used to potter around on an old Moto Guzzi motorbike that would quite literally bring the spark back into his life, especially in rainy weather.

A pleasant bonus that comes free with every Panda is practicality. You'll be surprised how much stuff you can get in one. As PHer Paraicj commented on the Suttie guide thread, a couple of mountain bikes will go in the back (admittedly, once the wheels are off). The flaky cabin materials aren't the best at standing up to this sort of rough treatment, so as an owner you'll have to dial in something of a 'fahgeddaboudit' mentality. That practicality is partly a function of the car's height, which is a negative when you're driving it like a sports car.


As it stands, you've got a good few months worth of summer madness in store here before you need to start concentrating on getting the 100HP through its next test in December. Then you will find that parts are not only cheap but also easy to come by and fit.

The vendor's Facebook site has lots of nice customer comments backing up its claim of a pressure-free sales environment. Cynical types will always cast a quizzical glance at FB comments like these, but Shed has a good feeling in his water about these ones.

Here's the ad. Read it fast and then get on the blower because Al's piece concludes with a 'price now' guide of '£2000 upwards'.

Author
Discussion

Master Bean

Original Poster:

4,337 posts

133 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Why so cheap?! arghh...

r11co

6,244 posts

243 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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The bonnet has had a cheap blow-over at some point - the lacquer is peeling thanks to shoddy prep work and will only get worse with each wash. I couldn't live with that.

BFleming

3,827 posts

156 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I guess seeing a 100HP in SOTW was inevitable given the exposure / general love on PH lately. Not a luxobarge, and not too quirky, but a great shed.

kavster296

156 posts

90 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Amazing!
Planning to buy one within the next couple of weeks as my first car!
The insurance costs £200 less than a 1.25 Fiesta Style

Brompty

153 posts

157 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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The price seems suspiciously low for a car with just peeling lacquer on the bonnet. There must be some gremlins lurking...

CarlosSainz100

606 posts

133 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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FFS!
I was due to see this tomorrow morning!

Thanks Pistonheads

Cambs_Stuart

3,258 posts

97 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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That is ridiculously cheap. If only it was a bit nearer...

irish boy

3,746 posts

249 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Superb little things.

I ran a 4x4 for 4 winters. Never missed a beat and was unstoppable on proper tyres.

rb_89

113 posts

83 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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What a bargain! (Providing there is nothing serious hiding).

I see quite a few of these about, would be fun cheap second car..

BeastieBoy73

718 posts

125 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Brilliant Shed. Shame Fiat didn’t see the need to build a warm version of the current Panda.

521EK9

56 posts

84 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I owned one of these a few years ago as a stop gap car. It was brilliant fun and had real character. The suspension is a little firm but can be expected with a short chassis and an attempt to make it feel sporty.

When trying to balance the throttle in sport mode and hitting a bump in the road, your foot jumps on the pedal and the car turns into a wild italian stallion.

Sa Calobra

39,032 posts

224 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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That's a great first car.


littlebasher

3,879 posts

184 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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If it's of any help, i bought a car from there once and they seemed okay.

I'll have to see if i can get up there before CarlosSainz100, instead of a £250 City Rover i was planning to look at

only1ian

712 posts

207 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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kavster296 said:
Amazing!
Planning to buy one within the next couple of weeks as my first car!
The insurance costs £200 less than a 1.25 Fiesta Style
Then buy this youll never see another at this price!

I think im correct to say that a 57 plate is the newest shed ever

Edited by only1ian on Friday 15th June 08:20

Sa Calobra

39,032 posts

224 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Makes you wonder why the price?

At 104,000miles on an old Fiat I'd be cautious.

I'd always buy a 100hp privately. The selling dealer probably isn't supplying any warranty of his own.

viggyp

1,919 posts

148 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
At 104,000miles on an old Fiat I'd be cautious.
Really? I've had 8 Fiats and 2 Lancias and the engines are very strong but then I look after them. Most people buy Fiats to run to the ground because they're "rusty old Fiats" and don't even change the oil or change the exhausts/manifolds when they have holes and then they complain the cars are unreliable. I had a Strada Abarth which did over 100K and only had to change a starter motor. Then again, that was a strong lump smile

I'm thinking of getting rid of my Coupe 20VT for one of these. Living in London has made me feel tired of owning a very quick motor and I want something fun, chuckable and economical.

kuiper

209 posts

140 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Utterly cracking shed!

Several times nearly bought one of these and then for whatever didn't, but they appeal hugely in a way I can't understand but am quite content with.
Mileage on this would probably put me off a little, as a bit more than this will get you a much nicer example - but for the money, outstanding. Would budget on a bag of sand in addition to bring it up to scratch....

Howard-

4,959 posts

215 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Some of you seem surprised at the price... Is an 11 year-old small Fiat hatchback with over 100,000 miles and dodgy paintwork really going to be worth much more?


Alfahorn

7,796 posts

221 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
At 104,000miles on an old Fiat I'd be cautious.
WOW - there are still people that trot this garbage.

Like ANY Make of car. Maintained correctly and they will be reliable. Skimp on maintenance the car is more likely to let you down.

Must go. I've got to sell my 92,000 mile 2013 Alfa Guilietta before it disintegrates on my drive!

Turbobanana

7,086 posts

214 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Alfahorn said:
Sa Calobra said:
At 104,000miles on an old Fiat I'd be cautious.
WOW - there are still people that trot this garbage.

Like ANY Make of car. Maintained correctly and they will be reliable. Skimp on maintenance the car is more likely to let you down.

Must go. I've got to sell my 92,000 mile 2013 Alfa Guilietta before it disintegrates on my drive!
yes

Some cars actually get better. This is SHED of the Week, not "Low mileage, trailer queen of the week". My own personal record was a 246,000 mile Saab 900 Turbo which was, by some margin, the best car I ever owned.