Getting a new job after failed probation period
Getting a new job after failed probation period
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Original Poster:

3 posts

86 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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Hi!

My probation period is due to complete soon (6 month) and I may fail as I've been notified, the reasons given are my English (I'm not a native speaker) obviously they don't say so, they told me my accuracy is not good enough. The role involves write a lot of emails among others. My question is, now before their final decision is made I'm thinking to resign, independently if I am successful or I fail. I don't have a new job yet but I've seen some interesting offers to me in another sector.

Do you think is better for my next application to resign or await for their final decision? Do you think I should ask for references in my current office? What is best for my CV an future employers?

Any advise would be much appreciated

Thanks! :-)

Jasandjules

71,949 posts

252 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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For me I would prefer to resign than have a probationary period termination.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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It's surprisingly common for people to 'seek new opportunities' after 6 months, so no real stigma especially if you're young and going for something slightly different. Probably better to resign but as close to the 6 month point as possible.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

270 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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OP, can you repeat that in English Please?


Seriously though, I would have thought people would be able to justify pulling the race card if they were fired for not having English as a first language. Surely they would have known this when they interviewed you.




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Original Poster:

3 posts

86 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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Thanks for your advises, they point 3 main points in which I'm not good enough, all related with my English, and yes, they know before hiring me.

Anyway, I should resign and ask for a reference? It's my first time doing that

Thanks!

Macneil

1,057 posts

103 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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What field are you in? Are you qualified in it?

Without knowing what you are about to be fired from it's hard to say. Have you completely bullstted your way in been found out? Or are you a little below the level of communication skills required for the job?


Macneil

1,057 posts

103 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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Jasandjules said:
For me I would prefer to resign than have a probationary period termination.
A view shared by Ian Huntley, he didn't want his record marred with a sacking so he resigned.

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Original Poster:

3 posts

86 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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Thanks for your opinions, all of them are helpful. In regards my communication skills I think I'm not in the level required yet

bearman68

4,916 posts

155 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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Are you working hard to type in this forum then? - You're coming across OK, and reading what you have written would not trigger my 'English not first language' alarm.

Is there something else wrong that they are not being completely open about?

Mind you, no point working where you are not wanted, loved or valued. It's just st, so that's worth bearing in mind as well.

sherbertdip

1,267 posts

142 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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bearman68 said:
Are you working hard to type in this forum then? - You're coming across OK, and reading what you have written would not trigger my 'English not first language' alarm.
I beg to differ, whilst the OP's English is undoubtedly good it is fairly obvious that his written English is not his first language. However, it is better than a lot of native English speakers I've seen!

OP, first question to you is do you want to keep this job?

If so you could be proactive and instead of being asked to leave, or handing in your notice why don't you advise your line manager that you are aware of your lower standard and wish to improve it by undertaking a written English course, you could even ask them to fund, or part as part of your personal development.

Du1point8

22,515 posts

215 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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sherbertdip said:
bearman68 said:
Are you working hard to type in this forum then? - You're coming across OK, and reading what you have written would not trigger my 'English not first language' alarm.
OP, first question to you is do you want to keep this job?

If so you could be proactive and instead of being asked to leave, or handing in your notice why don't you advise your line manager that you are aware of your lower standard and wish to improve it by undertaking a written English course, you could even ask them to fund, or part as part of your personal development.
The above here would be my main question and solution...

Do you want the job, if so can you ask the powers that be (whoever is your line manager), that if you enrolled on an English course and passed it with regards to improving written and spoken English, could they possibly extend your probation by the amount of time the course would take to complete plus a few months to see if you can fix their main issue with you...

It's not completely unknown for people to have extended probation, but do it before they decide to get rid and fail you, this will show you being proactive about the situation and wanting to do it on your own time.

GT03ROB

13,983 posts

244 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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sherbertdip said:
bearman68 said:
Are you working hard to type in this forum then? - You're coming across OK, and reading what you have written would not trigger my 'English not first language' alarm.
I beg to differ, whilst the OP's English is undoubtedly good it is fairly obvious that his written English is not his first language. However, it is better than a lot of native English speakers I've seen!
The OPs written English is understandable, and far better than I could ever manage in any language (bar English), but it is not good. The role as he says requires him to write a lot of emails, so I can understand why he may have a problem.

I don't see a problem with changing jobs after 6 months. Resign or be released a simple explanation of it didn't work out for either party is sufficient. A reference may well be harder if he's released, but many companies these days won't offer a reference in any case aside from confirming dates of employment.

OP if you really want the current job, why not offer a timeframe to improve your English skills then get some tuition or coaching.

sparks_E46

12,738 posts

236 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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Your written English is coherent, and reads well for it not being your first language. I wouldn’t have a problem communicating with you over email, so why would anyone?

I’ve read plenty of professional emails sent from senior management, where English is most certainly their first language, that I’ve had to read a few times to understand properly. I’d never criticise as I’m nowhere near perfect myself when it comes to written English, and you never know who else in all walks of life may struggle with it. As I said it’s a shame, especially in this day and age, that help and advice isn’t given, rather than casting you aside. Sounds like an organisation you may be better off without. Best of luck in what you decide to do!