DVLA Think Car has Been Scrapped
DVLA Think Car has Been Scrapped
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Mark-C

Original Poster:

7,203 posts

228 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Odd one this (for me at least) so looking for anyone who's been through the same experience and helpful input.

My daughter has come from holiday to find a letter\cheque from the DVLA refunding the remainder of the Road Tax on her Focus. The letter is legit and matches one I have from last year following a car sale. The thing is my daughter hasn't sold her car.

The first thing she did was to check the usual DVLA car check site and her car has vanished - you get a response saying "Vehicle Details can not be found" and a phone number.

On ringing the DVLA they have stated that the car has been reported sold. After a bit of too and throw they stated the vehicle will be off the system if it's been scrapped. Eventually they agreed to look into it and have sent a template looking email asking for pictures of V5 Reference, VIN numbers and general car shots. They have also stated she should stop driving it (I'll lend her my daily) and also get it off road, which is tricky given she doesn't have a drive. They reckon on four weeks to review the case.

So has anybody been through this and how did it turn out.

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HasToBeV8

162 posts

111 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Sorry I don't know the answer but that sounds awful situation. I hope you get it sorted out OK soon.

Mark-C

Original Poster:

7,203 posts

228 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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HasToBeV8 said:
Sorry I don't know the answer but that sounds awful situation. I hope you get it sorted out OK soon.
Thanks - lucky I have a car to lend her but the DVLA have been somewhat unsympathetic in the few brief dealings.

anothernameitist

1,500 posts

158 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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4 weeks to sort out, honestly what a set of clowns.

There must be a paper work or computer trail.

Don't they scan things.

5 minute job you'd have thought.

Lucky she can use your car.

Just think though if she had been away on holiday and all the ANPR on her journey home is pinging away!

Mark-C

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7,203 posts

228 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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anothernameitist said:
Just think though if she had been away on holiday and all the ANPR on her journey home is pinging away!
She drove it home from Manchester Airport to Leeds so that's entirely possible! She's going to ring her insurance as well to see what their thoughts are on the subject. Think we have somewhere to get it off teh road now at least.

TonyRPH

13,460 posts

191 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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I have recently scrapped a Focus.

The reg of your daughter's car doesn't end in VDZ does it??

V8RX7

28,982 posts

286 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Either there have been two Focus running around on the same No. plate (surprisingly common)

Or (more likely) someone at the DVLA has made a simple typo

Personally I'd be calling and asking for a Manager to sort within 24hrs or they are paying for a hire car.

ensignia

936 posts

258 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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This is exactly what happened to someone I know, just a few short weeks ago.

They got the same sort of response where they're asked to send proof the vehicle still exists and is in their ownership.

Ridiculous that they have to jump through these hoops when clearly it's a clerical error which leaves them without transport for up to four weeks.

njw1

2,660 posts

134 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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V8RX7 said:
Personally I'd be calling and asking for a Manager to sort within 24hrs or they are paying for a hire car.

^^^ This, if they told me I couldn't drive my car for possibly four weeks whilst they sorted their mess out I'd politely tell them to shove it!

But what would actually be the legalities of driving it anyway? What could you get done for? I'd imagine no tax if it's been refunded but then would you if the reg number no longer exists? Or driving with a false reg number? With regards to insurance and the mot you'd have e-mails/paperwork to prove they're valid.....? confused

Wooda80

1,743 posts

98 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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In order to scrap it someone would have had to send in part of the reg doc to DVLA. As far as I am aware this is one process that you can't do online.
Does your daughter still have the registration document? Could someone else have applied for a duplicate out of mischief or ill will?

TonyRPH

13,460 posts

191 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Wooda80 said:
In order to scrap it someone would have had to send in part of the reg doc to DVLA. As far as I am aware this is one process that you can't do online.
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You can indeed do it online.

I scrapped my O/H's Focus about 2 weeks ago, and was able to do it online.

This is why I asked the OP if by some strange coincidence his daughter's reg ended with VDZ...


Sheepshanks

39,221 posts

142 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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V8RX7 said:
Personally I'd be calling and asking for a Manager to sort within 24hrs or they are paying for a hire car.
rofl You've never spoken to the DVLA, have you?

Someone on here lost his job because of a missing code on his driving licence.

LarsG

991 posts

98 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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If the car does not 'exist' it does not need insurance or tax.

SD_1

7,278 posts

181 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Sheepshanks said:
Someone on here lost his job because of a missing code on his driving licence.
Jesus, what was the story there? Got a link to the thread? Doesn't surprise me in the slightest based on my dealings with them

Turfy

1,071 posts

204 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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anothernameitist said:
5 minute job you'd have thought.
They have 10's of thousands of these 5-minutes jobs...

V8RX7

28,982 posts

286 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Sheepshanks said:
V8RX7 said:
Personally I'd be calling and asking for a Manager to sort within 24hrs or they are paying for a hire car.
rofl You've never spoken to the DVLA, have you?

Someone on here lost his job because of a missing code on his driving licence.
On the contrary - I have many times, I used to trade in cars, plates etc

V8RX7

28,982 posts

286 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Turfy said:
anothernameitist said:
5 minute job you'd have thought.
They have 10's of thousands of these 5-minutes jobs...
Indeed but as I point out - I only care about mine !

You simply have to make the most fuss, call back every 15 mins etc

Wooda80

1,743 posts

98 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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V8RX7 said:
Indeed but as I point out - I only care about mine !

You simply have to make the most fuss, call back every 15 mins etc
To get the best result make sure you get the name of the person you spoke to and ask for them by name every time you call back. If it helps I've found that Gareth is a bit stroppy but John is very helpful.

ETA - I tried using the online service to tell DVLA a car has been scrapped using a random registration number from a car in the forums but it turns out that you still need the reg doc serial number as well as the reg number to do it. Must be some coincidence to mis-key a reg number and find that the serial number was the same.


Edited by Wooda80 on Sunday 16th June 14:45

Rasta Pickles

80 posts

81 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Sheepshanks said:
rofl You've never spoken to the DVLA, have you?

Someone on here lost his job because of a missing code on his driving licence.
Yeah they're a law unto themselves.

My wife has epilepsy so gets a three year licence; every three years, she has to reapply, they check with her GP that she hasn't had another episode and it's a rinse and repeat job.

Except a couple of years ago, they sent her a ten year licence. We just assumed that because she'd been fit-free for about twenty years that she'd "moved up a rung" on the restriction.

They must have realised *their* mistake because they wrote a right stroppy letter to her basically blaming *her* for *their* mistake and ominously threatening to revoke her licence entirely (as in, you'll need to retake a driving test) if she didn't return the ten year licence immediately.

The DVLA are a classic example of how you can act with impunity when you have a monopoly

dhutch

17,540 posts

220 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Wooda80 said:
...I've found that Gareth is a bit stroppy but John is very helpful...
Can't tell if this is for real or genuine advice on who to ask for, but fair play either way!