RE: Shed of the Week | Volvo XC90
RE: Shed of the Week | Volvo XC90
Friday 27th September 2019

Shed of the Week | Volvo XC90

Big Volvos are a Shed mainstay, and for good reason, so how about an XC90?



Sheds tend to fall into one of two categories. They're either older cars that have become cheap through age, or younger cars that were cheap in the first place. This week's Shed is a bit different. It's not especially young, but it is what Shed would call a modern car. It's also a luxury car. So it's a young(ish) luxury car that has become cheap because - well, let's have a look into that.

This Volvo XC90 - another Shed debutant - is a dealer flip with no sales prep done, so you'll be stepping into the unknown to some extent, but it's fair to say that a weekend's worth of deep cleaning could well turn it into something with a perceived value somewhat higher than £1,500.

It's a two-owner car with no mention of rust anywhere on the MOT history, though the 2018 tester did loftily comment on its underside being 'scabby and showing signs of age'. Well, it happens to us all dearie. The testing rules changed after that and there have been no sniffy comments since.


The XC's credentials as a family car are pretty much unquestioned. Penned by Doug Frasher, the recently retired design director of Volvo's Monitoring and Concept Centre in California, it is packed with thoughtful touches and is as strong as the proverbial ox. By 2018 not a single XC90 occupant had died in car-to-car accidents in the UK, which is quite a stat.

In order to pursue our rising interest in the XC as a practical but classy barge that moves the Volvo game on from the well-loved but getting on a bit V70s, we need to know two things: what goes wrong on higher mileage examples, and how you might add some performance.

Let's look at the potential banana skins first. Because it's a modern car, and a luxury one at that, the spec list contains much of the gear you'd expect to see in a new car today. That's good if it's all working, but bad if you're not a fan of automotive complication and the problems it can bring down the line.


Reflecting the sort of urban lives most XCs have led, they tend to have parking dings and sometimes issues with the door mirror glasses. Brake fluid burns away and bulbs blow more quickly than you might expect, but most other consumables like wiper blades, brake discs and pads last quite well.

On the mechanical side, the 2.4 D5 five-cylinder diesel engines are solid enough. Poor starting will probably be down to a faulty injector, and these are not cheap to replace. Alternators fail, and excess fuel can enter the sump during DPF regen cycling. The belts and pump need doing every 60,000 miles/4 years: the 96k/8yr-change tensioners are known to be the most fragile component in that package. You can expect to see around 30mpg on average.

The Geartronic transmissions that were fitted to all UK cars don't have the best reputation for reliability. Their modular oil cooler system was quite a novel idea but owners who were supposed to add extra modules for heavy-duty use like towing often didn't bother or simply weren't aware. Sticky servo valves in the shift mechanism have been attributed by some to inadequate greasing at the factory. There are reports of transfer boxes blowing too.


There was a steering-based recall in 2006 and it's worth checking the state of the engine mounts. Volvo seems to have had a problem getting these right. Shed's old V70 T5 felt like its engine was about to drop through onto the road at any minute. It never did, but it definitely felt like it might.

Getting back to the right end of the telescope for a minute, this car has only had two previous owners, and the April MOT picked up just one advisory: not one but two nails in the nearside rear tyre. Thank you Mr Builder. You'd assume that this tyre has been replaced by now. With some all-wheel drive cars you're in dangerous tranny wind-up water if you don't change all four tyres at once, but the Haldex system used by Volvo since 2000 gives you more latitude. If an XC90's rear tyres seem to be wearing more quickly than the fronts, it could be that your rear drive isn't working.

On the tuning front, you can get a plug-in chip upgrade for under £400 that will hoist the power up from 163hp to 200hp on the standard setting or 220hp on the gambler's setting, and the torque from 251lb ft to 310lb ft, or 356lb ft if you're feeling lucky. Being perfectly honest, the XC90 is a car that would benefit from an electronic kick up the towbar. These are beefy beasts that weigh in on the wrong side of two tonnes. When the XC90s were still new kids on the block, Shed had a go in one and was surprised by what felt like an awful lot of inertia in that 4WD system. Provoking it into forward motion seemed like quite an effort.


In an attempt to confirm his seat of the pants suspicions, Shed tried to talk his mates into the idea of hiring an old airfield to see how far each of their cars would coast when neutral was engaged from higher speeds. He was convinced that the XC90 would come dead last. Or first, if you thought that the first car to grind to a halt was the winner. Unfortunately, Shed's mates are even stingier than he is. They all balked at the £10 fee being asked by the airfield owner, so this potentially interesting experiment never came to pass. It's something for Freddie and Paddy to try out perhaps, testing different cars on the same tyres in a probing insight into how much power is lost through internal rotating masses.

Talking of Mrs Shed, bolster wear seems to be worse on this car's passenger seat than it is on the driver's perch, suggesting that it may have been driven in an angry manner designed to put the wind up an unwelcome and morbidly obese passenger. It would fit right into the Shed stable, then.

Here's the ad.

 

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Matt Bird

Original Poster:

1,539 posts

229 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 27th September 2019
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Sorry for the delay on this everyone, entirely my fault! More content on the way very soon...



Matt

waftycranker

223 posts

84 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Bloody hell Matt Bird.

I've been waiting all morning to say "First!".

pSyCoSiS

4,183 posts

229 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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I think these are rather handsome cars in the right spec and colour combo.

Fairly under powered I would imagine with 163bhp?

Great value at the moment and a good SOTW.

QuattroDave

1,769 posts

152 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Jeezy creezy I had no idea these were in Shed territory. My dad had a massiely specced up on a few years ago he loved the waftability of it not so much the mid 20's he got over his time with it (though he is quite leaden footed!)

Drive Blind

5,622 posts

201 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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the no warranty, no comeback, etc, etc from a dealer doesn't sit right with me.

Saying that I don't know the prices of these, is it super cheap? Well under what you could get one in a private sale?

Also if you read his gumtree ad there's a £79 'administration fee' to add to the price. Something else I hate dealers doing.

Steamer

14,114 posts

237 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Worth the wait I think!

My first thought was 'Brave Pill?!'...

..But actually, a 5 cylinder tank for £1500! thumbup

Michaelbailey

651 posts

130 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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pSyCoSiS said:
I think these are rather handsome cars in the right spec and colour combo.

Fairly under powered I would imagine with 163bhp?

Great value at the moment and a good SOTW.
remap takes it over 200hp I think. Been thinking about buying a tow vehicle/car for the misses. This seems ideal, as has been said didn't realise these were shed money!

ETA Didn't even see that mentioned in the article. Great minds OP

Cupra Black

3,077 posts

242 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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I had one of the first S60s with the D5 lump. Great engine and got 40mpg no matter how hard it drove it.

Massive brave pills needed for this IMO

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

180 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Shed has his sensible trousers on this week.

A good clean and that has years of service left in it.

Get it bought I say!

Rumblestripe

3,865 posts

186 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Michaelbailey said:
remap takes it over 200hp I think. Been thinking about buying a tow vehicle/car for the misses. This seems ideal, as has been said didn't realise these were shed money!
If you get her a pair of roller skates you can just push her.

Dion20vt

252 posts

186 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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The pre facelift Euro3 models (like this one) are the best IMO - No DPF or swirl flaps... truth be told I've owned both the 163 and 185 models, not much between them in terms of "performance" but the 163 was better on fuel thanks to the lack of dpf and flaps.

Check the haldex is working, quick way of checking is get your arm under the car and see if you can turn the prop shaft by hand, if you can - it's not awd anymore biggrin

The 2.5T is a good alternative, stay away from the 2.9 T6 - they love to eat gearboxes! My personal favorite would be the 4.4 V8 smile

teacake

151 posts

215 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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We bought a (much newer, 2010) one of these a few months ago as a family car, and we are really impressed. It really needs to be hit hard with the stick to get moving, but as long as you don't mind a bit of noise from what is quite a coarse diesel then it does pick itself up when needed. Once up to speed on the open road or particularly on the motorway it's as quiet and refined as you could wish. It's so good it even rivals my supercharged Jaguar XJ, with perhaps just a little more wind noise.

The seats are excellent, there's tons of space, and it feels really well put together and robust. The seven seats are genuinely usable, and the third row are actual proper seats. Sat nav is terrible, though. Really awkward interface.

I wouldn't choose one as a town car, but as a family hack and a long-distance cruiser it's excellent.

alorotom

12,691 posts

211 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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That’s an epic amount of shed for the dosh!

A friend has just took delivery of a new one at £760mth on PCH for 2yrs... puts the value of this into perspective somewhat!

I may head back to shedding when my current PCH is done.

teacake

151 posts

215 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Dion20vt said:
My personal favorite would be the 4.4 V8 smile
Oh yes indeed. I tried to persuade Mrs Teacake of the clear rightness of this, but she wouldn't have it and we ended up with a D5.

Not within Shed budget, though they can be found for less than £10k now.

ecksjay

356 posts

176 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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having been in the position to look for a cheap runaround recently, the price is probably about right. I've seen lots down at the £1500 mark so for those on the market, there may well be a few choices.

Cant recall what engine packages they were but i've definitely seen a few on the likes of FB marketplace/ebay etc.

Col325

41 posts

146 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Lovely to see an XC90 making it on here....i work in the trade and one came to me as a PX vehicle. It was blue rather clean and handsome owned by an elderly gentleman. Mine was the on a 55plate the change over year between the 163Bhp mad 185bhp model and this was the exact year i was looking for, without the wooden dash trim and SE Spec. This included heated leather, electric memory seats, cruise etc. It had 208K on the clock but for a 2 owner car boasting the history it had this did not phase me at all...payed the princely sum of £700 and i had a smart looking handsome 7 seater 4x4.

Now while the 163bhp engine may be down on power on the 185 its the more reliable unit, so is the 5 speed box as opposed to the later 6 speeder, economy wise im regularly getting 36-37mpg on a run youll be lucky to get 30mpg on a 185. Its just got everything you need to munch big miles in comfort, once up to speed it goes along nicely and can be brisk if you ask it to, refined a lot of Swedish thoughtfullness went into it from the vast amounts of storage front to rear, great stereo, 7 seats....this was a steal a lot of car for what i paid and if it went pop ive had a years use out of it...cant complain. It still is one of the best when you need to seat 7 adults in comfort, its no X5 or Audi Q7 but the better for it. Oh and its huge, but what a bus.

Sandpit Steve

13,935 posts

98 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Great shed if you need a tow car or to move lots of people. The danger with old luxury cars is usually electrical gremlins, but it doesn’t seem that Volvo have as many problems in this regard than their German or British rivals.

STiG911

1,210 posts

191 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Yesus - the MOT history is a proper horror story. Clear evidence of this being run on a shoestring budget. What other disasters lurk?

Run. Run very fast.

cluckcluck

872 posts

209 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Quite like these, didn't realise they were getting to this pricing. But damn, that one looks like its had a real hard life, i bet it looks awful in person.

BFleming

3,877 posts

167 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Another shed from a dealer, which means it's worth about half of what he's asking. He couldn't even be arsed to wash it.