RE: Alpina B3 (E46) | Spotted
RE: Alpina B3 (E46) | Spotted
Tuesday 31st March 2020

Alpina B3 (E46) | Spotted

Too much BMW on PH lately? No problem, because this isn't one...



It's incredible what a rabbit hole the PH classifieds can be. Take today's Spotted. While perusing the listings in search of something intriguing, I happened upon this rather handsome E39 525i. Not only is it fully-specced and low mileage - having only seen 56,000 miles in its 18 years - but, as an example originally sold on the Japanese market, it's in immaculate condition too. A handsome car in anyone's book, then, but the sight of its 16-inch Radial Spoke 48 rims immediately had my mind wandering somewhere else.

Right into the path of the Alpina B10. An example from the same E39 era, of course, a generation of BMWs which I've always thought seemed particularly suited to the Alpina treatment. The car in question was a V8 S, one of forty-two such machines delivered to the UK, and boasting a 370hp 4.8-litre petrol V8, the most powerful engine available in a range which included a choice of 335hp 4.6-litre V8, 280hp six-cylinder petrol and - in a sign of things to come - 255hp 3.0-litre twin-turbo diesel motors. It was perfect.


Or it was, until I saw this. Would you just look at it? £14,980 may seem like quite a lot of money, but it's a decent chunk less than you'd pay for an equivalent M3 with similar miles. Sure, you don't get quite the same kind of power, performance or - beyond those in the know - prestige as you would with an M car, but an E46 in that colour on those wheels? You couldn't put a price on the joy of seeing it on your drive every morning.

The same 3.3-litre petrol inline-six that looked a little tight-fisted in the B10 seems a better fit here and, although its 280hp falls short of the 305hp put out by the 3.4-litre B3S - the model aficionados would say you really want - its 247lb ft of torque puts it in the same ballpark as the M3's 269lb ft. That's enough to see to the 0-62 sprint in 5.5 seconds which, while admittedly half a second slower than the M3, is still pretty zippy. Besides, with a five-speed auto 'box in lieu of the available manual, this car perhaps better embodies Alpina's tradition of high-speed Autobahn cruisers over high-strung B-road bruisers.


And there's more to a car purchase than outright speed, after all. Value, condition, reliability - a certain je ne sais quoi - these things all matter too. With only one former owner, a detailed history and an inspection less than 1,000 miles ago, they all seem to be present here. Our Spotted's 43,000 miles (just over 2,000 a year since it was built) are reflected in what looks to be its incredible state, with its Alpina Green Metallic paint apparently as spotless as its Montana leather interior - two options that would have combined for an additional £5,600 when new, or £10k after inflation.

Speaking of money, the ad claims the original bill of sale to still be on file, a document which displays a £75,000 RRP. What does the Bank of England's inflation calculator make of that sum 21 years on? £131,000, that's what. Yep, it's easy to get distracted by the incredible array of precious metal in the PH classifieds, but when it comes to today's Spotted, I may well have found something that could finally hold my attention. Until tomorrow, at least...


SPECIFICATION - ALPINA B3 (E46)
Engine:
3,300cc, straight-six
Transmission: five-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 280hp@6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 247lb ft@4,500rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Recorded mileage: 43,000
First registered: 1999
Price new: £75,000 (£131,000 after inflation)
Yours for: £14,980

See the full ad here


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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,967 posts

243 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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That wood trim though... Yikes.

CAMELZED

48 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Full ad is for the blue V8S not the green car in the article.

2 GKC

2,268 posts

130 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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£75k in 1999. Christ

Not sure the Alpina treatment works on that front end. Such a pretty car to start with

s m

24,223 posts

228 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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2 GKC said:
£75k in 1999. Christ

Not sure the Alpina treatment works on that front end. Such a pretty car to start with

Yes, a fair wodge of cash when people were reluctant to spend 60k on an E46 M car some 4/5 years later

Still, a rare old thing but not for me with that box

Luca Brasi

885 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Wasn't this a 5 speed auto, like all period BMWs?

Buster73

5,545 posts

178 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Never liked those wheels , about time they changed the style to something more up to date.

tosh.brice

204 posts

236 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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CAMELZED said:
Full ad is for the blue V8S not the green car in the article.
looks like the green one has gone, already.

jase_llan

151 posts

82 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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2 GKC said:
£75k in 1999. Christ

Not sure the Alpina treatment works on that front end. Such a pretty car to start with
Agreed, 330ci and M3 both look far superior to my eye; I also prefer the M3 wheels on the E46, although the Alpina wheels really suit 5 Series BMWs.

Adrian E

3,339 posts

201 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Correct link to the featured green car:

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

I seriously considered an E39 with the 3.3 motor back in 2010 - even then the choices were limited and many had starship mileages. The 3.3 seems to have the potential for throwing engine issues if it hasn't been properly maintained - there's also not a lot of space between the bores so headgasket faults and cracks can be an issue. The one I nearly bought had had the wrong oil used in the latest service, which stopped me going ahead.

Amazed the V8S is that price - doesn't strike me as bad value smile The V8's were generally much, much higher spec than any of the 3.3's. Not uncommon to find a 3.3 with next to no options, whereas the V8 would've had several k thrown at it

leglessAlex

6,966 posts

166 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I think that's god damn glorious.

I'd love a green Alpina with gold decals from new, but I just can't afford the depreciation, sad times. They make squishy, monsterously fast estates, what's not to like??

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,617 posts

123 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I had a B10 3.3 and a v8s. Did 200k miles in the latter. Friend had a b3 admittedly a convertible.

3.3 is not that fast, certainly by modern standards, and certainly not as a convertible. I think they were 5 speeds ( my manual B10 was ) and it really missed the 6th gear on the motorway. Was reving at 3500 plus which wasn't in keeping with its more relaxed character. The engine drinks oil - a litre every 1000 miles. Needs 98 Ron.

V8S was a lovely big beast. Not a sports car ( very different character to my e39 M5 ) but to some extent modern diesels do it's thing a lot better these days.

And these cars do rust.....

Dafydd Wood

43 posts

132 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Luca Brasi said:
Wasn't this a 5 speed auto, like all period BMWs?
Yes it was, thanks for catching that!

Jon_S_Rally

4,388 posts

113 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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FIFTEEN THOUSAND POUNDS?!?!?!?!?!?!

I'm sorry, but you'd have to be absolutely mental to spend that on an E46 that wasn't an M3, Alpina or otherwise.

BFleming

3,887 posts

168 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Dafydd Wood said:
Luca Brasi said:
Wasn't this a 5 speed auto, like all period BMWs?
Yes it was, thanks for catching that!
BMW called it a Steptronic gearbox, Alpina called it the Switch-Tronic because they added the gearshift buttons to the steering wheel.

£70k new? Not correct. They were £43k-ish, but of course you could go mental with the options list (and many did).
The Alpina Register is a good go-to guide: https://www.thealpinaregister.com/B3/3.3/saloon
Car 236 (the one for sale here) isn't on there, but cars 235 and 237 are. Car 222 was £44850 new, Car 116 was £42650 new.

Edited by BFleming on Tuesday 31st March 10:23

DaveyBoyWonder

3,643 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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I love Alpinas of all sorts but given £15k I'd rather have an E46 M3.

Supersaloons

105 posts

150 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I had a B10 3.3 and a v8s. Did 200k miles in the latter. Friend had a b3 admittedly a convertible.

3.3 is not that fast, certainly by modern standards, and certainly not as a convertible. I think they were 5 speeds ( my manual B10 was ) and it really missed the 6th gear on the motorway. Was reving at 3500 plus which wasn't in keeping with its more relaxed character. The engine drinks oil - a litre every 1000 miles. Needs 98 Ron.

V8S was a lovely big beast. Not a sports car ( very different character to my e39 M5 ) but to some extent modern diesels do it's thing a lot better these days.

And these cars do rust.....
I've had all of them. You're right about the oil consumption, ridiculous, my B10 3.3 auto needed a litre every 600 miles. My B10 V8s Touring was my favorite, nicer car then my B5s Touring... B10 Bi-Turbo was my dreamcar and that was my first Alpina back in 2008. Last comment, I also had the E39 with the 3.2 (in manual) and that was lovely, so much better then the 3.3, engine much smoother, not so raw as the 3.3 and it didn't use any oil.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

249 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Supersaloons said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I had a B10 3.3 and a v8s. Did 200k miles in the latter. Friend had a b3 admittedly a convertible.

3.3 is not that fast, certainly by modern standards, and certainly not as a convertible. I think they were 5 speeds ( my manual B10 was ) and it really missed the 6th gear on the motorway. Was reving at 3500 plus which wasn't in keeping with its more relaxed character. The engine drinks oil - a litre every 1000 miles. Needs 98 Ron.

V8S was a lovely big beast. Not a sports car ( very different character to my e39 M5 ) but to some extent modern diesels do it's thing a lot better these days.

And these cars do rust.....
I've had all of them. You're right about the oil consumption, ridiculous, my B10 3.3 auto needed a litre every 600 miles. My B10 V8s Touring was my favorite, nicer car then my B5s Touring... B10 Bi-Turbo was my dreamcar and that was my first Alpina back in 2008. Last comment, I also had the E39 with the 3.2 (in manual) and that was lovely, so much better then the 3.3, engine much smoother, not so raw as the 3.3 and it didn't use any oil.
Didn't Alpina recommend 10w60 oil on their cars, but Sytner put 5w30 or 5w40 in them?


Slippydiff

16,088 posts

248 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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Find the extra £5K and get the B10 V8S. End of (though a B3 3.4S saloon or coupe at £15k with similar miles would be a far more enticing proposition than the B3 3.3 ...)

BFleming

3,887 posts

168 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
Didn't Alpina recommend 10w60 oil on their cars, but Sytner put 5w30 or 5w40 in them?
Shortly after launch Alpina switched to recommending 10w60. Before that it was 0w30 I think, but excessive oil consumption was common from new (and it only got worse over time).

From t'web:
OEM will be Castrol Edge 0W-30 FST
However, if it is using oil at a fast rate then consider 5W-40.
If oil consumption is less than 750 miles per litre, then 10W-60 is recommended.
Either way, make sure you choose a fully synthetic oil with BMW LL01 or BMW LL04 rating.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,617 posts

123 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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gizlaroc said:
Supersaloons said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
I had a B10 3.3 and a v8s. Did 200k miles in the latter. Friend had a b3 admittedly a convertible.

3.3 is not that fast, certainly by modern standards, and certainly not as a convertible. I think they were 5 speeds ( my manual B10 was ) and it really missed the 6th gear on the motorway. Was reving at 3500 plus which wasn't in keeping with its more relaxed character. The engine drinks oil - a litre every 1000 miles. Needs 98 Ron.

V8S was a lovely big beast. Not a sports car ( very different character to my e39 M5 ) but to some extent modern diesels do it's thing a lot better these days.

And these cars do rust.....
I've had all of them. You're right about the oil consumption, ridiculous, my B10 3.3 auto needed a litre every 600 miles. My B10 V8s Touring was my favorite, nicer car then my B5s Touring... B10 Bi-Turbo was my dreamcar and that was my first Alpina back in 2008. Last comment, I also had the E39 with the 3.2 (in manual) and that was lovely, so much better then the 3.3, engine much smoother, not so raw as the 3.3 and it didn't use any oil.
Didn't Alpina recommend 10w60 oil on their cars, but Sytner put 5w30 or 5w40 in them?
I remember at the time trying all sorts of oils, and speaking directly to Alpina, who were very helpful, but none of the suggestions actually made much difference. 600 to 1000 miles per litre was all it ever did - I've heard this from a few people to, though , as ever with these things, not all engines were effected. I seem to remember the 3.4 was meant to be better, but this is going back a bit....