RE: Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG | PH Legacy
RE: Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG | PH Legacy
Monday 4th May 2020

Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG | PH Legacy

The SLS was the first standalone car produced by AMG. It was also the first Mercedes for the modern age



The clue was there of course, its gullwing doors flamboyantly aloft, that long bonnet stretching far into the distance. The Mercedes SLS AMG was only months old when in October 2010 a new photo sharing app was launched. We didn't know that a decade down the road around an eighth of the global population would be Instagram users, and nor could we have guessed that the platform would not only influence the culture for a generation of young people, but come to define it.

And who could possibly have known that Mercedes-Benz - which at the time was known for its elegant saloon cars with gunsight three-pointed stars on their prow, ruched beige leather and walnut trim inside - would one day become an automotive darling of the Instagram generation?

Now we see that three-pointed star not as a flying emblem mounted aloft, but more often bigger, more prominent, pressed boldly into the centre of the grille and repeated tens of millions of times in little digital boxes on our phones. Mercedes-Benz is all over Instagram. It's splashed across social media like an MP's sex scandal across the red-tops, seemingly the most coveted premium car brand among millennials and Generation Z-ers around the world.



But is it? I did a spot of research to try and back that statement up. As it happens, the most Instagrammed car company of them all is BMW with 46.9m individual tags. Next is Honda, believe it or not, with 34.8m. Mercedes-Benz trails just fractionally behind on 34.6m (if you combine the #mercedes and #mercedesbenz tags, which isn't an exact science because not everybody using the Mercedes hashtag is talking about motor vehicles). Regardless, the Stuttgart marque is well clear of Audi with its 22m mentions, while Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini barely top 20m apiece.

BMW leads the way, then, with Mercedes-Benz number two in the premium sector as far as social media zealotry is concerned. But what I, and I suspect many of you, instinctively feel to be true is that Mercedes has the hearts of the Instagram set that posts online to show off: G63s as props outside enormous houses; C63s roasting tyres. How many times have those images been repeated on Instagram?

The point of mentioning all of this is that Mercedes' image has changed almost beyond recognition over the last decade. From where I'm sitting it's become youthful, sporty and cool, whereas one time it was more refined and well-to-do. The golf club car parks have been replaced by football training grounds.



And this is where we come back to the SLS AMG's legacy, because that turnaround has been the result of a two-pronged attack. The first is the company's unprecedented success in Formula 1, its team dominating the latter half of the last decade with six back-to-back drivers' and manufacturers' titles. Who saw that coming in 2010 when in its debut year it finished fourth in the standings? Team principle Toto Wolff said this in a recent interview with Martin Brundle for Sky Sports F1: 'A Mercedes today is perceived as a sporty car - it wasn't 10 years ago. [Mercedes] has become a really cool brand, but I think we have played our part in helping the brand to change its image by being in Formula 1, by being successful.'

So racing doesn't only improve the breed - in the case of Mercedes-Benz, it has rejuvenated it, too. In tandem with that we've witnessed the irresistible rise of its highly 'grammable performance wing, AMG. From 24,200 sales in 2008 the division registered a massive 132,136 sales in 2019, thanks in the most part to a far busier model line-up (now at more than 30 individual models). While AMG has been around and building great cars for a long time, it was in 2010 that the sub-brand really started to rocket, for it was then that AMG launched its first standalone model. The SLS AMG wasn't an adapted Mercedes-Benz like all AMGs had been before, but the division's first solo effort.

The arrival of the SLS was AMG's Definitely Maybe moment; the thing that sent it stratospheric. Apart from having a halo effect on the rest of the AMG line-up and Mercedes-Benz as a whole, it also demonstrated there could be a very high-performance two-seat Mercedes beyond an SL with eight or 12 cylinders, and that, unlike the SLR McLaren, was actually deigned and built in-house. What's more, the sensational Black Series model (unquestionably one of my favourite modern performance cars), which arrived with 631hp in 2012, proved that the Mercedes-Benz badge could bear the weight of a £230,000 price tag in a way the BMW roundel hasn't yet been able to.



The success of the SLS paved the way for a second standalone AMG in its direct successor, the AMG GT. And would it be a stretch to say that without those two models in its catalogue, Mercedes-Benz might not have had the confidence to green-light the £2m, 275-run AMG One hypercar? All of that activity over the past decade or so has done the business for Mercedes-Benz, not least in bringing down the average age of its buyers. The exact details are a closely guarded secret but anecdotally we know it to be true. In the case of the A-class, for instance, the average age of the people who bought it came down by a full ten years when the third-generation model arrived in 2012.

When we talk about a particular car's legacy, it's very easy to default to considerations of a technical sort. New materials, lightweighting, drivetrain innovations and so on. But while the McLaren F1's technological legacy could well be unmatched, the Ford Mustang and VW Beetle have lasting cultural legacies. The Renault Espace, meanwhile, left a very different sort of legacy, for it brought the MPV segment to life.

The SLS AMG can make no such claim. But in doing more than any other Mercedes-Benz model to overhaul the company's image, its legacy isn't much less significant. None of us knew it back in 2010, but this retro-styled supercar with show-stopping gullwing doors - not to mention that spectacular 6.2-litre naturally-aspirated V8 - was a very straightforward clue that Mercedes-Benz wouldn't satisfy itself with golf club captains and wealthy retirees much longer. The SLS AMG arrived just in time to pick up the famous old brand and deftly lower it right onto the curl of the onrushing Instagram wave.


Watch the SLS Black Rise & Drive video here





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Honeywell

Original Poster:

1,624 posts

123 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Ugly things. And, as you say, chavvy footballers cars these days wearing ridiculous 'bling'.

A brand to avoid.

Gitwhoismiserable

767 posts

148 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Honeywell said:
Ugly things. And, as you say, chavvy footballers cars these days wearing ridiculous 'bling'.

A brand to avoid.
Well that’s us off to a great start on this thread

anonymous-user

79 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Honeywell said:
Ugly things. And, as you say, chavvy footballers cars these days wearing ridiculous 'bling'.

A brand to avoid.
Bang on the money
Awful looking things that some naff footballer would have.

LotusOmega375D

9,103 posts

178 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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So what was it like to drive then? Current values. Running costs? Any reliability concerns? What about F1 safety car impact? What about the soft top version?

Strange article tells us next to nothing about the car.

shost

873 posts

168 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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It’s not a car review... it’s a review of the impact of the vehicle on the brand.

LotusOmega375D

9,103 posts

178 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Ah OK. What a dull idea for a story. No mention of the legacy of the 1954 300SL Gullwing of which this was a modern pastiche.

mitch_

1,282 posts

249 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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I remember when these were in production MB dealers were having a nightmare shifting them. Then came the lease deals which I think were around £1,500 over 2 years. Residual values were a thing of horror, I watched them crashing below £100k in no time.

Then they stopped production and the values have been going up and up. Can’t honestly say I know why though, unless it is the trade trying to push them up. Why would you want to pay more for one of these than and AMG GT? Just for the doors?

Anyhow, I never really enjoyed the rear-end and the media panel straight out of an E-Class isn’t going to stand the test of time either.

Edited by mitch_ on Saturday 2nd May 08:49

Mercutio

324 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Typical Britain (and I am a Brit) that an article which doesn't literally describe a car as a mechanical item, is pilloried by people rushing to get in a sardonic or negative post as soon as the comments open.

Personally this is one of the best articles I've read on here in a while (and I'm here daily). It's a great exposition of how one car and a Formula One dominance story, set off a train of events that a decade later would see Mercedes Benz as the brand of choice for a huge swathe of society it never previously reached.

It's worth remembering that not everyone is an enthusiast, and appreciated pagoda SLs, or the original Gullwing, or the legacy of the S Class, or 90s E Class saloons with "that" engine, or 1990s CL 600s because the Pagani Zonda engine therein lurked etc. Or even more recently the rasp and power of a C63 etc

To a lot of people Mercedes was the brand you buy when you start wearing beige, living at the golf club and doing your shopping during the daytime. The CL and the SL summed that up for me - lovely boulevard cruisers for folk of a certain wealth segment and age .

This article goes a long way to explain how that flipped on its head in a short space of time. Don't see why every article has to be a "spotted" or "shed" to be worthwhile on here.

P.S the SLS AMG is wide, crazily wide for the UK, don't put anything in the boot like shopping unless you want your food cooked before you get home, etc. And yet I still want one. So did many at the time - have never seen a car where almost every multimillionaire car enthusiast or celeb seemed to own one.

ReformedPistonhead

994 posts

162 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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They are awesome. I regret not buying one to collect when they were £80k. Now a nice one without red leather is nearer £180k. Maybe Covid brings them back down and I can add one to the barn.

Lovely.

MDL111

8,624 posts

202 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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I thought it was an interesting article.
I quite like the way the SLS coupe looks, much better than the successor imo. SLS and Z8 would make a nice garage imo - looks wise at least, not sure how good they are to drive, but am sure they will do for a nice Sunday drive in the mountains and the daily slog

chelme

1,353 posts

195 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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I like Dan Prosser's work generally and have nothing against him personally. He knows and loves his cars - bought an Alpine and for that alone I think "well done".

But articles like this are misplaced.

I prefer ones that are concise, depicting excellent use of the English language, good technical knowledge, yet full of passion for the romance of driving. There is an article in Car now - one of the features published in 1977. Its about the Ferrari 308. Its not so much that its a "Ferrari" that draws you in. Its the writer's expression of his experience. I invite you to read it.

Articles like the one published in 1977 should be the benchmark by which all other articles car related are judged and those who write for magazines car related would do well to seek their damnest to match.

Often times, and this is not something I see often with Car, but a lot elsewhere, articles are full of b*st personifications of cars and 'stories' behind them... This approach is misplaced.

Stick to the fact these are machines, and express how wonderful it can be to experience driving them.

Otherwise focus on the humdrum practicalities and so on and so forth when it comes to ordinary cars.



Edited by chelme on Saturday 2nd May 10:14

anonymous-user

79 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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IIRC, Harris ran one of these in dark blue with saddle brown leather while he was at EVO.
In my eyes, that was a cool looking thing and almost understated. if I had the money, that would be my perfect spec.
However successful it has been, you can't help but feel that with '30 plus' versions, Mercedes has somewhat diluted what the AMG brand originally brought to the party.

cerb4.5lee

42,255 posts

205 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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I've always liked these. I was behind one once and it made a lovely noise, a very nice motor I reckon. I'm also a fan of the AMG GT but the doors on these are much more cool though.

MDL111

8,624 posts

202 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Zygot said:
IIRC, Harris ran one of these in dark blue with saddle brown leather while he was at EVO.
In my eyes, that was a cool looking thing and almost understated. if I had the money, that would be my perfect spec.
However successful it has been, you can't help but feel that with '30 plus' versions, Mercedes has somewhat diluted what the AMG brand originally brought to the party.
Fully agree with the dilution aspect - but it goes hand in hand with the instagram stuff the article refers to - people nowadays seem to have a need to project a certain image to as many of their fellow humans as possible. Visible and easily identifiable branding is important to achieve that.

sidesauce

2,967 posts

243 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Well, I had one for a while, back in 2011.

It was a real experience - a mix of space age and at the same time, tickled the hooligan in me with that engine. I don't miss it but it is correct to say it was the first modern Mercedes-Benz in that even the latest models today share their (essentially updated) architechture with this car.

A flawed gem but an important one as far as development goes at Daimler in my opinion.

chelme

1,353 posts

195 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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sidesauce said:
Well, I had one for a while, back in 2011.

It was a real experience - a mix of space age and at the same time, tickled the hooligan in me with that engine. I don't miss it but it is correct to say it was the first modern Mercedes-Benz in that even the latest models today share their (essentially updated) architechture with this car.

A flawed gem but an important one as far as development goes at Daimler in my opinion.
My brother has one with all the tasteful optional extras. Bought it for £90k, so if he is able to sell it for £150+ needless to say he will do well. He says its a good drive and the NA V8 is a pretty special unit - can hear all the little details.... He lives in the far east and I have yet to experience it.

Saw one in the metal in London. It has real presence on the road and I actually prefer the design of this to the GT. It is unique.

markkeo

30 posts

169 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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I was fortunate enough to be given an ‘AMG Experience’ at MB World a few years ago during which I had a highly memorable hour ragging one of these around the MB World track. It was astonishing to drive, using the brakes and throttle to orientate the car in and out of corners, standing it on its nose via the brake pedal and oh, the noise....

I would agree that subjectively its looks are not MB’s finest design, but as a statement of intent from AMG, showcasing their powertrain development capabilities and mixed with a bit of MB heritage (i.e. gullwing doors), it was a very credible launch product.

This ‘statement launch vehicle’ and the AMG brand isn’t for everyone, but it works for me, I now have an SL63 AMG 6.3, enormous fun.

Edited by markkeo on Saturday 2nd May 10:23


Edited by markkeo on Saturday 2nd May 10:24

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,617 posts

123 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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Interesting article and discussion. Not sure I entirely agree with thesis that it was integral to a relaunch of the mercedes brand. People bought A classes because it was a reasonably priced mercedes not because of SLS or F1 association.

Someone on my street had one for 3 years. I always struggled with the proportions. It has a unresolved first time effort about it. Unless you had a real gull wing fetish, there were simply better other cars around at the time, which probably explains why it wasn't a great sales success.

Subsequent rehabilitation is slightly strange - it's a bit like the z8. Not loved at the time but now held in high esteem.

swisstoni

22,773 posts

304 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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I like em. One of the few cars I’d consider jacking my SL55 in for.

Tall_Blk

377 posts

216 months

Saturday 2nd May 2020
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I happen to like the look. Very difficult to place In terms of year and has rather aged well. I used to see these every week when I used to work next to a Mercedes Benz showroom. They used to drive up to a set of lights which is 90% in their favour during the working day, and as soon as the lights turned green, floor it. The sound of the engine was sonorous and that was it for me. I wanted an AMG.

Managed to purchase a W204 C63 and whilst its not quite the same, still loving the AMG brand 🙂