RE: Volkswagen CC V6 GT | Spotted
RE: Volkswagen CC V6 GT | Spotted
Tuesday 19th May 2020

Volkswagen CC V6 GT | Spotted

The unassuming VW with a V6 bigger than that in a 911 Turbo, Audi RS4 or Mercedes E53 - for £6,000



It's no great journalistic discovery that big engines simply won't be going into small cars again. Or, really, any-sized cars at all, what with the mounting, inexorable pressure of environmental concerns. That the Porsche 718 Cayman and Boxster GTS saw a return of a naturally aspirated engine - larger than the turbocharged one that it replaced - was a surprise; a welcome reprieve from an electrified onslaught. Until you remember that an electric 718 is looking very likely when the next version comes...

Anyway, the point is that we all enjoy the assorted charms of large engines, whichever bonnet they find themselves beneath - as proven by our recent Six of the Best story. So, no need to mope just yet about the demise of the big engine; instead it's the perfect time to get out and enjoy what's already available.


Something like this VW CC 3.6 GT, for instance. Obviously, it's no great undiscovered enthusiasts' hero - it is, let's be honest, a slinky Passat - but is blessed with a 3,597cc VR6 up front. Now more than ever, that makes it really quite interesting.

Clearly, cars like this are never going to be cheap to run, with average CC mpg hovering around 25 and the annual road tax bill set at £555. But with costs like that putting the average consumer off - in addition to the fact it was never the world's most desirable fast car - it means that the CC is cheap: this one is for sale at less than £6,500.

And although its V6 may not get the plaudits of an Alfa Busso or similar, the engine in the CC was lifted wholesale from the Passat R36, and the 3.6 was a descendent of the 3.2 used so memorably in two generations of uber Golf. Regardless of any overall qualms, the engine came in for almost universal praise thanks to its sound, response and power. This is the best-value way into that famed VW VR6, too; not only because Passat R36s are so hard to come by, but because R32s cling onto their value so doggedly. Spend this money on one of the hatches and you're looking at a 2007 car with another 50,000 miles on it.


So those after all the joys of a big V6 - the torque, the noise and the immediacy - will find all that here. That it comes housed in a comfortable, stylish, capable VW almost seems by-the-by nowadays as the desire to conserve the interesting engines continues. Indeed, if you really wanted to impose the endangered species analogy on this situation (we'd advise that you didn't), then the CC V6 GT would easily have its own sombre television advert by now: just six are left registered on our roads.

And now, for just six thousand pounds, you can help support the life of this... alright, we'll stop it now - the point has been hammered home. Once upon a time cars like the CC V6, fairly interesting curios on the fringes of mainstream appeal, were nothing more than that: rare old buses never much considered. Now they represent an era that isn't coming back, when fairly humdrum family cars could have a 300hp V6 stuffed in the front. Which, regardless of four-wheeled preference, is quite the feat. As the tech, infrastructure and mood make electric (or merely electrified) transport ever more viable, now's the time to get your fix of six - but in the most discreet way possible.


SPECIFICATION - VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 3.6 V6 FSI GT
Engine:
3,597cc, V6
Transmission: 6-speed DSG, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 300@6,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 258@2,400-5,300rpm
First registered: 2008
Recorded mileage: 67,000
Price new: £31,050
Yours for: £6,475

See the original advert here


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Cambs_Stuart

Original Poster:

3,475 posts

108 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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I bought the same spec car as the one above from the gentleman in this article, almost 2 years and 20,000 miles ago.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-carpool/vw-pas...

This is the day i picked it up.


It's supremely comfortable, quiet and can shift a bit. It's got a huge boot and plenty of space for the family. Long term it's done almost exactly 30 mpg, which is better than the subaru impreza or legacy that went before. I was thinking about changing it this year, but really sure what with, there's not many big performance saloons in the right age, price and running cost bracket.
It's a pain to park though. It's a big long car and visibility is terrible.

Edited by Cambs_Stuart on Tuesday 19th May 07:24

scottygib553

718 posts

119 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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These are awful chav limos in this part of the world (Ireland) but those are some impressive specs.

MikeM6

5,840 posts

126 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Not a bad car for £6k!

aka_kerrly

12,498 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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scottygib553 said:
These are awful chav limos in this part of the world (Ireland) but those are some impressive specs.
If have thought most would be TDIs though.


fieldmau5

180 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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scottygib553 said:
These are awful chav limos in this part of the world (Ireland) but those are some impressive specs.
We don't use the class system in Ireland bud. That kind of snobbery isn't welcome here.

The spinner of plates

18,080 posts

224 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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For the one-car family guy PHer, I see the appeal in this.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Isn’t that headline a bit fake news, bigger engine than a RS4. Not really, when this car came out the engine in the RS4 Was a 4.2 V8.

cerb4.5lee

41,736 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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I really like rare cars and I also appreciate a bigger engine too, so I do like this. I'd like it even more with a manual gearbox though. This looks like very good value for the performance it offers I reckon.

SweptVolume

1,176 posts

117 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Ah, this exact car was my shout at a reasonable alternative to the Aerton R article you had up a week or two back.

As an aside, whilst this car is cheap now, it was even cheaper (relative to age) about 4 or 5 years ago when I was looking at them. I seem to remember I had a top budget of £7-8k at the time and these were squeezing in (along with the Alfa 159 3.2). If this has only shed a grand or so in 4-5 years (and the few 159's for sale seem to have fared similarly at the mileage), it seems it's already pretty much bottomed out on the deprecation scale.

Perhaps "normal" saloons with big engines have finally become a sound buy?!

jwwbowe

697 posts

196 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Didn’t realise a 911 Turbo had a V6 PH

only1ian

725 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Fairly sure the same engine is available upto 2015 in the Skoda Superb! I think they are the best value sleep estate around

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,591 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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If you really want a 6 cyl petrol engine around this price point , suspect you are better off with a BMW 330i. The auto gearbox is a lot more reliable than a DSG of this era, and the CO2 is a lot lower, so running costs are less.

They are also a lot nicer to drive, though maybe not as many toys.....

DaveyBoyWonder

3,583 posts

198 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Like these - the CC is a very nice looking car in my opinion and I still occassionally look to see what R36 estates are available...

A1VDY

3,575 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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jwwbowe said:
Didn’t realise a 911 Turbo had a V6 PH
It doesn't. It has a flat six..

scottygib553

718 posts

119 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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fieldmau5 said:
We don't use the class system in Ireland bud. That kind of snobbery isn't welcome here.
Well I wasn't sure if 'knacker' has the same meaning in the UK smile It's a knacker's car for prowling around suburban takeaway precincts.

Gez79

239 posts

207 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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only1ian said:
Fairly sure the same engine is available upto 2015 in the Skoda Superb! I think they are the best value sleep estate around
It did but detuned to 260bhp and a bit more heft to pull around. Still a nice car though and don't they have 4 subtle exhausts?

CDP

8,019 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Seeing a few good S4s around at this sort of money.

Still discrete and surely the 4.2 V8 and a proper Quattro driveline is a better bet?

Or go a couple of years older and get the MG ZT but I guess they will be appreciating by now.

V8mate

45,899 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Gez79 said:
only1ian said:
Fairly sure the same engine is available upto 2015 in the Skoda Superb! I think they are the best value sleep estate around
It did but detuned to 260bhp and a bit more heft to pull around. Still a nice car though and don't they have 4 subtle exhausts?
Yep - I've got the 3.6 4x4 Superb estate. The pipes are all that give the game away.

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Do these not have dodgy timing chains?

Or is that the 3.2 FSI V6?

DaveyBoyWonder

3,583 posts

198 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Argleton said:
Do these not have dodgy timing chains?

Or is that the 3.2 FSI V6?
I know an R32 "thing" is to make sure the timing chains have been done if buying. I'd guess the 3.6 is the same. Someone mentioned the S4 V8 - aren't S4s of that era well known for being mega unreliable and being an engine out job to work on almost anything? Think I'd rather have the VW...