RE: Mild hybrid Fiesta delivers 155hp/177lb ft

RE: Mild hybrid Fiesta delivers 155hp/177lb ft

Monday 8th June 2020

Mild hybrid Fiesta delivers 155hp/177lb ft

New 48v tech promises more power and improved efficiency - but costs ST money



Not so long ago, it appeared that mild hybrid technology was the preserve of prestige performance cars only, vehicles like the Audi SQ7 and Mercedes-AMG E53 showing off the benefits of integrated starter/generator, 48v electrical system and storage battery.

Now, though, the tech is really entering the mainstream; nowhere is that more evident than with the introduction of this Ford Fiesta Ecoboost Hybrid. Using the technology first seen in the Puma late last year, the new model is said to bring a near-five per cent improvement in fuel efficiency. Ford says hybridisation also "enhances [the] fun to drive character."


Using the familiar combination of belt-driven integrated starter/generator (BISG in Ford speak) to replace the standard alternator alongside a lithium-ion air-cooled battery pack, the hybridised Fiesta has allowed Ford to lower the 1.0-litre compression ratio and fit a larger turbo. Because the stored electricity can supplement torque at low revs, turbo lag is less of a concern; in fact, because of how the BISG keeps the engine spinning, boost response should be improved once the turbo is active. So that means more power courtesy of a larger turbo, and hopefully less lag because of the hybrid tech - best of both worlds, right?

The most potent 999cc Ecoboost now has 155hp thanks to the new technology, alongside 177lb ft of torque, with 15lb ft contribute purely by the BISG acting as an electric motor. With CO2 rated at 116g/km and WLTP mpg of 55.4 (also aided by new Auto Start-Stop), the most powerful Hybrid Ecoboost is comparable to the 95hp, non-Hybrid model's score of 116g/km and 53.3mpg. A 125hp Hybrid model is also offered, promising 109g/km and 57.6mpg. Which all sounds very encouraging, though there's no mention yet of what the 48-volt technology adds in weight - let's hope for something negligible, that doesn't compromise the Fiesta's energetic nature.


The Hybrid has been introduced to the Fiesta range as part of a wider range facelift. So cylinder deactivation is now standard on all the three-cylinder Ecoboost models, a new seven-speed dual-clutch option replaces a six-speed auto and a raft of additional active safety tech is now available. This includes Adaptive Cruise Control, Cross Traffic Alert and Perpendicular Park Assist, all said to make the Fiesta "easier to enjoy than ever."

So, what's the catch? Well, the new mild-hybrid technology doesn't come cheap, with prices starting at £19,860 for a Fiesta Titanium Ecoboost Hybrid - more even than the old 140hp ST-Line models. And a modest improvement in fuel efficiency is going to take a long time to recoup the extra money doled out at the point of sale. Still, a sub-ST Fiesta that promises both improved performance and efficiency is not to be sniffed at, especially given the lofty bar already established. We eagerly await a test drive, and then to see what Mountune can do with mild hybrid tech - it had the 1.0-litre to 165hp already, so similar gains would deliver 180hp in the top spec model. Which would go a long way to justifying that ST-level price...




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Master Bean

Original Poster:

4,459 posts

135 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Exciting times.

V8 FOU

3,012 posts

162 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Negligable weight increase? Really?

mooseracer

2,396 posts

185 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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The ST lists at 21775 these days so nigh on 2k more expensive than one of these

Mattster67

8 posts

121 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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How much? It's a supermini!

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

280 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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"to bring a near-five per cent improvement in fuel efficiency"

why bother ?

wab172uk

2,005 posts

242 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Didn't ford cancel the next Focus RS as they couldn't make the Hybrid technology viable?

Yet here it is in a Fiesta. I'm sure more to it than that though.

rb26

802 posts

201 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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I'd be interested in an EV awd 'RS' version of the fiesta. Develop it all around acceleration and cornering, would be awesome on b roads. The pheasants wouldn't know what hit them.

Justin Case

2,195 posts

149 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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'nearly five% increase in fuel efficiency' sledgehammer/nut interface. I would buy a 'proper' hybrid that would run up to say 25 miles on battery alone, but this strikes me as just a marketing ploy as emissions don't seem to be reduced to any significant extent.

Krikkit

27,440 posts

196 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Porsche911R said:
"to bring a near-five per cent improvement in fuel efficiency"

why bother ?
Because every little helps them get their fleet CO2 scores down, which is heavily regulated.

We won't notice 5mpg, but they will.

drophead

1,056 posts

172 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Although expensive in terms of list (no one buys a car like this anymore), this kind of model I feel is the replacement for the 'sporty diesel hatch'.

Hopefully the avg consumption is around the promised 55mpg (to be able to do the efficiency thing diesels do so well) as this is a much more engaging proposition compared a diesel engined model with similar power.

Turkish91

1,116 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Having driven a few MHEV vehicles from another brand, I can imagine these will be mega with those power/torque figures. The car I drove was a 2.0 petrol MHEV and it absolute flew. The future is bright!

As for weight increase... the batteries aren’t heavy, the BISG’s are a bit though. I’d bet the car is 100kg heavier at the most.

PSRG

745 posts

141 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Turkish91 said:
Having driven a few MHEV vehicles from another brand, I can imagine these will be mega with those power/torque figures. The car I drove was a 2.0 petrol MHEV and it absolute flew. The future is bright!

As for weight increase... the batteries aren’t heavy, the BISG’s are a bit though. I’d bet the car is 100kg heavier at the most.
My E350 cabrio has a mild hybrid power train and, at a kerbweight of 1,820 kgs (!!) is just 25 kgs more than the E300, which is the same car minus the mild hybrid stuff. So not that much extra weight at all, and even as a % of the weight of a fiesta barely noticeable I imagine. That gives you an extra 50odd bhp, though I don’t suppose that’s just the hybrid...

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

171 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Porsche911R said:
"to bring a near-five per cent improvement in fuel efficiency"

why bother ?
That's a massive difference these days.


GroundEffect

13,864 posts

171 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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wab172uk said:
Didn't ford cancel the next Focus RS as they couldn't make the Hybrid technology viable?

Yet here it is in a Fiesta. I'm sure more to it than that though.
Yes, much more.


Jonny_

4,499 posts

222 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Mattster67 said:
How much? It's a supermini!
If you plumb the £9995 price of a 1990 XR2i into the Bank of England's inflation calculator, it would cost over £25000 in 2019 money.

Comparing the performance, standard equipment, space, comfort, reliability, fuel economy and safety of this mild hybrid one to that 1990 car, the modern car is incredibly good value for money.


Zad

12,858 posts

251 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Porsche911R said:
"to bring a near-five per cent improvement in fuel efficiency"

why bother ?
CO2, CO2, and CO2

First - Ford's fleet average (to reduce direct taxation on Ford)
Second - Lower road tax for purchasers
Third - Company car Benefit In Kind tax
Potentially a difference in local city taxation depending on location.

From what I gather with the Puma, the torque fill at the low end is a nice perk and generally makes it nicer to drive.

bristolracer

5,746 posts

164 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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I remember the Fiesta being launched as Fords new baby.

Its grown a bit

2 models below it now?

Fattyfat

3,308 posts

211 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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bristolracer said:
I remember the Fiesta being launched as Fords new baby.

Its grown a bit

2 models below it now?
Only marginally smaller than a MK1 Focus

anonymous-user

69 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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As interesting/relatively expensive this is, it ain't the quantum leap needed to reach the required fleet CO2 figure, and this is their biggest seller. Of it's meant to be fuel & emission efficient, does it need 155hp?
Also, isn't the bigger turbo going to burn more fuel when driven with enthusiasm?

Mattster67

8 posts

121 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Jonny_ said:
Mattster67 said:
How much? It's a supermini!
If you plumb the £9995 price of a 1990 XR2i into the Bank of England's inflation calculator, it would cost over £25000 in 2019 money.

Comparing the performance, standard equipment, space, comfort, reliability, fuel economy and safety of this mild hybrid one to that 1990 car, the modern car is incredibly good value for money.
Suppose it is just me getting old. Put like that it is good value. I'd think it'd be quicker than the 90 XR.