The Covid effect
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So since the onslaught of Covid19, local boroughs and TfL have taken advantage and pleasure in absolutely decimating the roads and f
king over road users.
Park Lane - Dropped from 40MPH to 20MPH - and a new cycle lane along with a reduction of lanes.
Congestion Charge - £15 Mon - Sun 7AM - 10PM (temp but highly likely it’ll be reviewed as permanent changes - it’s how this st goes)
Local London Boroughs (without consultation) carrying out changes and works to widen pavements and reduce traffic flow (Hammersmith and Fulham)
Boroughs such as Wandsworth and Lambeth also using Covid to temporarily (get fked you liars) without consultation again closing roads to traffic and restricting certain roads from cars.
The fkers are at it again, attempting to fk over the motorist.
I use a 125 for the commute (currently WfH) as the roads are a st show, but this is now crossing over from taking the piss to an absolute fking scandal. But given central government do whatever the fk they want (Cummings and Jenrick I’m looking at you) the locals are doing whatever the fk they want without consultation.
If people would actually get behind it I would fully get behind fully parking up on all major roads and bringing the roads to a complete standstill.
fk this st. Let’s see who they exploit next - because if London becomes car free, once the councils lose the CPZ, parking fines, permit income, etc etc etc from this anti car fkery they'll be broke. Mind you they’ll just bump up the council tax.
fking councils and government one rule for them.
Tossers fking utter s.
Rant over
king over road users.Park Lane - Dropped from 40MPH to 20MPH - and a new cycle lane along with a reduction of lanes.
Congestion Charge - £15 Mon - Sun 7AM - 10PM (temp but highly likely it’ll be reviewed as permanent changes - it’s how this s
t goes)Local London Boroughs (without consultation) carrying out changes and works to widen pavements and reduce traffic flow (Hammersmith and Fulham)
Boroughs such as Wandsworth and Lambeth also using Covid to temporarily (get f
ked you liars) without consultation again closing roads to traffic and restricting certain roads from cars. The f
kers are at it again, attempting to fk over the motorist.I use a 125 for the commute (currently WfH) as the roads are a s
t show, but this is now crossing over from taking the piss to an absolute fking scandal. But given central government do whatever the fk they want (Cummings and Jenrick I’m looking at you) the locals are doing whatever the fk they want without consultation. If people would actually get behind it I would fully get behind fully parking up on all major roads and bringing the roads to a complete standstill.
f
k this st. Let’s see who they exploit next - because if London becomes car free, once the councils lose the CPZ, parking fines, permit income, etc etc etc from this anti car fkery they'll be broke. Mind you they’ll just bump up the council tax. f
king councils and government one rule for them. Tossers f
king utter s.Rant over
EDIT, no idea why moved to NPE. Posted into General Gassing... anyway.....
It’s ridiculous and it’s deliberate. What is not to understand?
Given the fact you also have Hyde Park to cycle. It’s a piss take to fk up park lane in this manner but it is deliberate.
Choke the roads, increased congestion and pollution. Justification to keep the extended CC changes.
They’ve choked most of the main A roads in and around London, that is intentional. Think A40 and A406 utterly pathetic limits and average cameras.
It’s ridiculous and it’s deliberate. What is not to understand?
Given the fact you also have Hyde Park to cycle. It’s a piss take to f
k up park lane in this manner but it is deliberate. Choke the roads, increased congestion and pollution. Justification to keep the extended CC changes.
They’ve choked most of the main A roads in and around London, that is intentional. Think A40 and A406 utterly pathetic limits and average cameras.
Edited by giggity on Tuesday 30th June 01:20
TVR Sagaris said:
This one I really, really don't understand. It is wide, clear and part of the ring road. 20mph feels completely ridiculous on that stretch.
I used to cycle up it so I'd have been relieved at the reduction in car speed and I would assume that is the thinking behind a lot of this. They want people cycling not driving and you can't encourage people to do that in London without trying to make it safer. I lived in London for 13 years and can count on the fingers of two hands how often I drove in the center. Of course you will all now trot out examples of plumbers who need to drive in London or people with disabilities etc and I'm not discounting that but this rant above is a bit overdone.
Einion Yrth said:
I've never understood people wanting to go to central London, but some do, and some of those would like to do it by car; why should they not be able to?
Not saying they can't shouldn't be able to - it's just a bit harder now. The area discussed is in the very, very centre of the city where the road space is finite but the number of users is going to go up over the next few months as more go back to work and more avoid public transport. I'm a car enthusiast but there's a point where driving a car makes little sense. We are talking about a tiny spec of land amongst the entire British Isles. There are other places to live... No one would take a Riva yacht down a canal and complain about the narrow boats and locks slowing them down (a bit tongue in cheek) 
Einion Yrth said:
I've never understood people wanting to go to central London, but some do, and some of those would like to do it by car; why should they not be able to?
Nail on headI’ve been away for 20y but spent a lot of time living there beforehand
When I started driving you could drive into the centre and park without too much hassle just behind Oxford St, Kings X, Islington etc etc etc. Street parking was free on Sundays
When I left car ownership has increased hugely and I hardly ever drove as it was just too much hassle.
Cheers
mstrbkr said:
Not saying they can't shouldn't be able to - it's just a bit harder now. The area discussed is in the very, very centre of the city where the road space is finite but the number of users is going to go up over the next few months as more go back to work and more avoid public transport. I'm a car enthusiast but there's a point where driving a car makes little sense. We are talking about a tiny spec of land amongst the entire British Isles. There are other places to live... No one would take a Riva yacht down a canal and complain about the narrow boats and locks slowing them down (a bit tongue in cheek)
Exactly. You can still use a car but you're going to have to pay to do so and you're not going to be able to scare the cyclists on Park Lane quite as much as you used to be able to. People forget that when they're driving in an urban area they're impacting on other people in a reasonably negative way. The govt isn't going to turn a blind eye to that forever are they?
I have never understood the desire to cycle in London but lots of people do.
As a non cyclist I would get behind any objections to punitive restrictions on their ability to choose to cycle, especially if that was forcing them, say, on to buses or the tube against their desire. If they want or need to cycle that is their choice.
Similarly - if people want or need to drive then they should have that option.
As a non cyclist I would get behind any objections to punitive restrictions on their ability to choose to cycle, especially if that was forcing them, say, on to buses or the tube against their desire. If they want or need to cycle that is their choice.
Similarly - if people want or need to drive then they should have that option.
PeteinSQ said:
Exactly. You can still use a car but you're going to have to pay to do so and you're not going to be able to scare the cyclists on Park Lane quite as much as you used to be able to.
People forget that when they're driving in an urban area they're impacting on other people in a reasonably negative way. The govt isn't going to turn a blind eye to that forever are they?
No vested interest or bias there thenPeople forget that when they're driving in an urban area they're impacting on other people in a reasonably negative way. The govt isn't going to turn a blind eye to that forever are they?
menousername said:
I have never understood the desire to cycle in London but lots of people do.
As a non cyclist I would get behind any objections to punitive restrictions on their ability to choose to cycle, especially if that was forcing them, say, on to buses or the tube against their desire. If they want or need to cycle that is their choice.
Similarly - if people want or need to drive then they should have that option.
They still have that option to drive. It's the size of the car that is the problem and why they're subject to a congestion charge that costs more than a motorbike and less than a van.As a non cyclist I would get behind any objections to punitive restrictions on their ability to choose to cycle, especially if that was forcing them, say, on to buses or the tube against their desire. If they want or need to cycle that is their choice.
Similarly - if people want or need to drive then they should have that option.
menousername said:
No vested interest or bias there then
No of course not ha ha. To be fair neither does the OP...I don't actually live in London anymore so I don't care one way or the other but I can see the logic behind wanting to reduce motorised traffic in city centres where so many people are living. Poor air quality probably being more of an issue than encouraging cycling (although I guess the two could go hand in hand)
John Locke said:
Colchester Borough Council is at it too. LibDim led council which delights in screwing up traffic and reducing services at every opportunity. Heads on pikes is what we need.
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