Toyota hybrid sad state of affairs :(
Toyota hybrid sad state of affairs :(
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Spare tyre

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12,558 posts

159 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Just seen one drive past the house, with an a3 sized sticker on the front door low down, “CAT GUARD FITTED”

What has the world come too frown

Are manufacturers doing anything in this area?

georgezippy

441 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Incase a cat tries to pinch it?
getmecoat

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Well I suppose that is one advantage of all-electric vehicles... No cat for scumbags to steal.

But I imagine battery thefts will then become 'a thing' if they haven't already.

jjones

4,489 posts

222 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Wait for tyre tax, will be back to nicking wheels.

Ayahuasca

27,581 posts

308 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Do they fit Defenders?


matchmaker

9,041 posts

229 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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My first thought on seeing the first post in the thread was something like this:


kambites

71,472 posts

250 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
But I imagine battery thefts will then become 'a thing' if they haven't already.
With most EVs, stealing the battery would be far harder than just stealing the whole car.

StuntmanMike

15,061 posts

180 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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eek

Whataguy

1,134 posts

109 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Check out the comments from people who have had theirs stolen, on the official Toyota blog:

https://blog.toyota.co.uk/catalytic-converter-thef...

Cat guards seem to have limited effectiveness unfortunately as people have still had their cat stolen even with one fitted frown

I sold my Toyota hybrid, and bought... an old diesel!

No point having a car if you can't park it without worrying will the cat still be there when you get back.

kambites

71,472 posts

250 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Why are "Toyota hybrids" particularly succeptable to it, anyway?

ntiz

2,677 posts

165 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Why is this happening on Toyota hybrids?

As opposed to other cars?

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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kambites said:
Lord Marylebone said:
But I imagine battery thefts will then become 'a thing' if they haven't already.
With most EVs, stealing the battery would be far harder than just stealing the whole car.
Depends on the car, but in some Hybrids, stealing the battery pack is far easier than trying to steal the car.

Battery pack thefts have been on the rise for about 5 years now.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/27/toyota-prius-b...


Jamescrs

6,388 posts

94 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Spare tyre said:
Just seen one drive past the house, with an a3 sized sticker on the front door low down, “CAT GUARD FITTED”

What has the world come too frown

Are manufacturers doing anything in this area?
Why would they do anything? It happened to a guy I work with who took his car to Toyota and did an insurance claim for the theft and insurers paid out for a new cat from the dealer. That's a win for the dealer.

I know there's the argument it will put people off buying them but not really because to most the benefits outweigh the risk. Theft of vehicles with keyless ignition has been an iissue for around a decade and they haven't tackled that either.

SuperPav

1,341 posts

154 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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kambites said:
Why are "Toyota hybrids" particularly succeptable to it, anyway?
Because they use very high efficiency cats with a higher loading of whatever combination of precious metals is used, to allow it to work more quickly when the engine kicks in to take over from the EV motor and the hot end is still cold.

The recoverable precious metal content is therefore significantly higher than from a random diesel car, driving up scrap values...

V6todayEVmanana

850 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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One of the earlier Fords in the family housed the spare wheel underneath the car and a snip with some cutters would drop the cradle and the wheel would be gone.

Ford provided a fix to existing cars in which the centre of the wheel was attached to a bolt that secured internally.

Surprised Toyota haven't got a solution, maybe it only occurs in the UK

DaveH23

3,355 posts

199 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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If I seen that sign I would immediately think that it does have one on.

Similar to No Tools left in this Van overnight.

kambites

71,472 posts

250 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
kambites said:
Lord Marylebone said:
But I imagine battery thefts will then become 'a thing' if they haven't already.
With most EVs, stealing the battery would be far harder than just stealing the whole car.
Depends on the car, but in some Hybrids, stealing the battery pack is far easier than trying to steal the car.

Battery pack thefts have been on the rise for about 5 years now.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/27/toyota-prius-b...
Aah in hybrids I can believe it, yes. I'm dubious of the idea of anyone stealing the half tonne odd pack out of a modern BEV though. smile

kambites

71,472 posts

250 months

Wednesday 5th August 2020
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SuperPav said:
kambites said:
Why are "Toyota hybrids" particularly succeptable to it, anyway?
Because they use very high efficiency cats with a higher loading of whatever combination of precious metals is used, to allow it to work more quickly when the engine kicks in to take over from the EV motor and the hot end is still cold.

The recoverable precious metal content is therefore significantly higher than from a random diesel car, driving up scrap values...
Ah fair enough.

I think they still use platinum as a catalyst don't they?

swampy442

1,954 posts

240 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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Suppose it's down to where you live, I haven't heard of any cat thefts in my area .

grudas

1,407 posts

197 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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been happening all over the country! lexus RX hybrids are targeted big time... you can chop it off without jacking the car up!