Toyota hybrid sad state of affairs :(
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Check out the comments from people who have had theirs stolen, on the official Toyota blog:
https://blog.toyota.co.uk/catalytic-converter-thef...
Cat guards seem to have limited effectiveness unfortunately as people have still had their cat stolen even with one fitted
I sold my Toyota hybrid, and bought... an old diesel!
No point having a car if you can't park it without worrying will the cat still be there when you get back.
https://blog.toyota.co.uk/catalytic-converter-thef...
Cat guards seem to have limited effectiveness unfortunately as people have still had their cat stolen even with one fitted

I sold my Toyota hybrid, and bought... an old diesel!
No point having a car if you can't park it without worrying will the cat still be there when you get back.
kambites said:
Lord Marylebone said:
But I imagine battery thefts will then become 'a thing' if they haven't already.
With most EVs, stealing the battery would be far harder than just stealing the whole car. Battery pack thefts have been on the rise for about 5 years now.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/27/toyota-prius-b...
Spare tyre said:
Just seen one drive past the house, with an a3 sized sticker on the front door low down, “CAT GUARD FITTED”
What has the world come too
Are manufacturers doing anything in this area?
Why would they do anything? It happened to a guy I work with who took his car to Toyota and did an insurance claim for the theft and insurers paid out for a new cat from the dealer. That's a win for the dealer. What has the world come too

Are manufacturers doing anything in this area?
I know there's the argument it will put people off buying them but not really because to most the benefits outweigh the risk. Theft of vehicles with keyless ignition has been an iissue for around a decade and they haven't tackled that either.
kambites said:
Why are "Toyota hybrids" particularly succeptable to it, anyway?
Because they use very high efficiency cats with a higher loading of whatever combination of precious metals is used, to allow it to work more quickly when the engine kicks in to take over from the EV motor and the hot end is still cold.The recoverable precious metal content is therefore significantly higher than from a random diesel car, driving up scrap values...
One of the earlier Fords in the family housed the spare wheel underneath the car and a snip with some cutters would drop the cradle and the wheel would be gone.
Ford provided a fix to existing cars in which the centre of the wheel was attached to a bolt that secured internally.
Surprised Toyota haven't got a solution, maybe it only occurs in the UK
Ford provided a fix to existing cars in which the centre of the wheel was attached to a bolt that secured internally.
Surprised Toyota haven't got a solution, maybe it only occurs in the UK
Lord Marylebone said:
kambites said:
Lord Marylebone said:
But I imagine battery thefts will then become 'a thing' if they haven't already.
With most EVs, stealing the battery would be far harder than just stealing the whole car. Battery pack thefts have been on the rise for about 5 years now.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/27/toyota-prius-b...

SuperPav said:
kambites said:
Why are "Toyota hybrids" particularly succeptable to it, anyway?
Because they use very high efficiency cats with a higher loading of whatever combination of precious metals is used, to allow it to work more quickly when the engine kicks in to take over from the EV motor and the hot end is still cold.The recoverable precious metal content is therefore significantly higher than from a random diesel car, driving up scrap values...
I think they still use platinum as a catalyst don't they?
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