RE: VW Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 | Spotted
RE: VW Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 | Spotted
Wednesday 25th November 2020

VW Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 | Spotted

The new Clubsport is auto-only and little more powerful - so how about trying the old one?



Back in 2015, the Golf GTI Clubsport was a curious case of marketing compromising a first impression. Because while the Clubsport was a nice way to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Golf GTI, it didn't quite meet the expectations set by that name. It was a faster and better handling version of the Golf GTI, yes, but only slightly. It didn't feel very Clubsport.

Thankfully, VW put things right when it gave us the car we'd always wanted in the Clubsport S. It took over the fight against Renault Sport's and Honda's best, leaving the Clubsport to shine for its halfway talents. Now, the model's desirability has increased further thanks to the confirmation of an auto-only powertrain for the Mk8 Clubsport. It's the last of the breed available with manuals, the most powerful examples of 'regular' Golf GTIs (those with back seats, basically), with gearsticks.


It's not like the last Clubsport lacks much compared to the Mk8 Clubsport, either. The odd status of overboost means that the Mk7 was sold as 265hp, when in fact 290hp was there at full throttle for 10 seconds every time you needed it (providing there had been 10 seconds since the last application of full throttle). Confusing, but the long and short is that this Clubsport is only 10hp behind the last one.

There were additional Clubsport tweaks that made it worthwhile over the GTI Performance Pack, too, including bucket seats, the bodykit (said to provide tangible aero benefit) and a rework underneath, with stiffer springs and revised anti-roll bars. There were even Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s on the options list for full track day kudos, though sadly they aren't fitted to the car here.

What it added up to was... well, exactly what you might expect, really. It was a Golf GTI made a little better, if not subjected to a staggering transformation - that was the job of the Clubsport S. Still, there's still plenty to recommend the regular CS; not only is there now a substantial price gap between it and comparable versions of the record breaker (more than £10,000), it serves as a reminder of the what the Mk8 perhaps hasn't got quite right so far. Arguably, this is a better looking Golf, for example, plus it seems everyone is in agreement that the old interior was a more user friendly one. And with the dimpled golf ball gear knob - rejoice!


It says a lot about Golf GTI buying habits - and why the new CS is configured as it is - that there are just six Clubsports currently for sale on PH. This is the only car without the DSG, and there isn't a single three-door. You don't need to be business mind of the year to decipher that five-door autos are what people want to buy. So that's exactly what VW has made. As for this particular Clubsport Edition 40, it looks good even by the high standards of similar cars: it's covered a piffling 20,000 miles from new, comes with a VW service history and even seems to have survived with its natty 'Brescia' wheels unkerbed. If the Mk8 has made you covet a Mk7, there can't be many better.

So, while the level of work that's gone into the new Clubsport - with more negative camber, reworked dampers and a chunk of Nurburgring test time - means expectations are running high, don't forget about the old one. It wasn't revelatory for the GTI and it never will be, but it was a great example of just how good at almost everything the humble five-door Golf could be.


SPECIFICATION | VOLKSWAGEN GOLF GTI CLUBSPORT EDITION 40

Engine: 1,984cc, four-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 265@5,350rpm, 290hp with 10-second overboost
Torque (lb ft): 258@1,700-5,300rpm, 280lb ft with 10-second overboost
MPG: 40.3 (provisional NEDC)
CO2: 162g/km (provisional NEDC)
Year registered: 2016
Recorded mileage: 22,000
Price new: £30,875
Yours for: £23,650

See the original advert here




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Master Bean

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5,227 posts

150 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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This looks pretty in white.

Buster73

5,622 posts

183 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Bit of a long story but the dragon had an Ed 35 , a white Ed 40 came up on social media for sale at the same dealership we’d bought and had hers serviced at.

Went to see it the next day , same salesman , no discount and an insult of an offer for the px for the 35

A week or so later , saw the same car with a private plate on it , so rang my mate who told me he had bought it a few days later.............and was given a reasonable discount.

Ordered an S3 instead , decent deal and sold the 35 into the trade at £2k more than the px offer

I’ll never give that VW dealer another penny .

That was about 3 or 4 years ago , to be fair they still have the car.

Rankss

116 posts

86 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Advert taken off.

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andygo

7,398 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Shame about the 4 doors, 3 doors look so much nicer imho.

culpz

4,964 posts

142 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Good thing with these is that, pretty much most of the stuff from the Clubsport S can be bought and fitted to them. So, you can essentially have the same car but keep the practicality of having 4 seats and the option of DSG. I think it would just be the engine that would separate them, for the most part.

acme

3,034 posts

228 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Perhaps I'm misreading the below taken from the article, but is there any difference between the Clubsport and the Clubsport Edition 40? I was only aware of the one version, cheers.

"Back in 2015, the Golf GTI Clubsport was a curious case of marketing compromising a first impression. Because while the Clubsport was a nice way to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Golf GTI (and the Clubsport Edition 40 kept the party going in 2016)"

Scottie - NW

1,388 posts

263 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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What is the point of overboost? If it's to protect cooling systems or whatever, and VW don't want to increase the capacity of oil or coolant systems, then why not just allow the full boost all the time and use the ECU to lower the boost as temperature thresholds are reached?

Water Fairy

6,611 posts

185 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Are they having a giggle with that price? Less than 7k depreciation in 4 years. It's a Golf, albeit a nice one, for goodness sake.

culpz

4,964 posts

142 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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acme said:
Perhaps I'm misreading the below taken from the article, but is there any difference between the Clubsport and the Clubsport Edition 40? I was only aware of the one version, cheers.

"Back in 2015, the Golf GTI Clubsport was a curious case of marketing compromising a first impression. Because while the Clubsport was a nice way to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Golf GTI (and the Clubsport Edition 40 kept the party going in 2016)"
It's the same car. The Edition 40 is the Clubsport. Think it's just the way it's been worded in the article.

irish boy

3,913 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Scottie - NW said:
What is the point of overboost? If it's to protect cooling systems or whatever, and VW don't want to increase the capacity of oil or coolant systems, then why not just allow the full boost all the time and use the ECU to lower the boost as temperature thresholds are reached?
Seems silly when the cupra puts out 300 permanently. Maybe not to encroach on the golf R?

acme

3,034 posts

228 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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culpz said:
It's the same car. The Edition 40 is the Clubsport. Think it's just the way it's been worded in the article.
Thanks, I was only aware of one but did wonder.


davidc1

1,648 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Saw a white 3 door on the nicer 18s at the PH BMW headquarters last year. Looked terrific.

culpz

4,964 posts

142 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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acme said:
culpz said:
It's the same car. The Edition 40 is the Clubsport. Think it's just the way it's been worded in the article.
Thanks, I was only aware of one but did wonder.
Just re-read the article and they have said a few times that they're 2 different cars. Pretty sure that's an error.

fantheman80

2,645 posts

79 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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culpz said:
It's the same car. The Edition 40 is the Clubsport. Think it's just the way it's been worded in the article.
Not so sure, the clubsport and clubsport s was announced November 2015, the edition 40 a year later in November 2016. No idea if clubsport and 40 edition were identical, think later had the wheels as in the article

culpz

4,964 posts

142 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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fantheman80 said:
culpz said:
It's the same car. The Edition 40 is the Clubsport. Think it's just the way it's been worded in the article.
Not so sure, the clubsport and clubsport s was announced November 2015, the edition 40 a year later in November 2016. No idea if clubsport and 40 edition were identical, think later had the wheels as in the article
Hmmm, maybe not then. Every time I've searched them on AT, some come up with both names, some just one or the other. They look identical too.

AngryPartsBloke

1,439 posts

181 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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fantheman80 said:
culpz said:
It's the same car. The Edition 40 is the Clubsport. Think it's just the way it's been worded in the article.
Not so sure, the clubsport and clubsport s was announced November 2015, the edition 40 a year later in November 2016. No idea if clubsport and 40 edition were identical, think later had the wheels as in the article
I can't seem to find anything online to suggest two distinct models from two different model years. I can only find one 'Normal' model, Edition 40 Clubsport, and the not so normalCLubsport S.

culpz

4,964 posts

142 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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AngryPartsBloke said:
fantheman80 said:
culpz said:
It's the same car. The Edition 40 is the Clubsport. Think it's just the way it's been worded in the article.
Not so sure, the clubsport and clubsport s was announced November 2015, the edition 40 a year later in November 2016. No idea if clubsport and 40 edition were identical, think later had the wheels as in the article
I can't seem to find anything online to suggest two distinct models from two different model years. I can only find one 'Normal' model, Edition 40 Clubsport, and the not so normalCLubsport S.
That was always my assumption. Unless they did the Clubsport first and then re-named it as Clubsport Edition 40 later on? Seems a bit daft though. As i said, i can't seem to tell any difference.

WD-40

119 posts

162 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Water Fairy said:
Are they having a giggle with that price? Less than 7k depreciation in 4 years. It's a Golf, albeit a nice one, for goodness sake.
Not really. Just sold mine for a similar price privately, albeit a much better spec than that one. Advert up on PH on the Thursday, quite a bit of interest and sold by the Sunday.

Depreciation on mine worked out at a little over £1.5k a year having bought from a main dealer at 6 months old and sold privately over 3 years later. Happy with that.

Fantastic car, missing it already.

WD-40

119 posts

162 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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culpz said:
That was always my assumption. Unless they did the Clubsport first and then re-named it as Clubsport Edition 40 later on? Seems a bit daft though. As i said, i can't seem to tell any difference.
I think it was just called Clubsport pre-production and Clubsport Edition 40 for production

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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WD-40 said:
culpz said:
That was always my assumption. Unless they did the Clubsport first and then re-named it as Clubsport Edition 40 later on? Seems a bit daft though. As i said, i can't seem to tell any difference.
I think it was just called Clubsport pre-production and Clubsport Edition 40 for production
They're definitely just one car. The only thing that signified the Edition 40 name was the plaque inside the car.