RE: Audi S5 | Spotted
Thursday 10th December 2020

Audi S5 | Spotted

Old fashioned in the engine bay, but modern enough elsewhere - the S5 looks more appealing now than ever



While it's hardly a new topic, recent discussions have reminded us just how much joy can be derived from a great engine. Think about it, it's hard to conjure up many truly great cars that don't have a brilliant engine, but many an average machine has been made memorable, interesting or even properly desirable with something exciting under the bonnet. Because a sublime chassis might need certain circumstances to really shine, and an excellent piece of design can only be appreciated when not driving. But engine can be enjoyed virtually everytime you turn the key: at idle, under load, through a tunnel, with a good gearchange - even just to look at, if you're lucky.

Furthermore, though not everyone's favourite car brand, Audi has made some fabulous engines over the years. It still does, in fact, the glorious V10 soldiering on in the R8 and the five-cylinder masterpiece set to continue in the next RS3. Problem is, a new Audi is jolly expensive, and not always guranteed to be desirable. The ideal scenario, surely, is the combination of a noteworthy engine, a logical interior and conspicuous good value. That might seem an impossible set of criteria for an Audi; step forward, then the original S5.

Though neither as powerful as the flagship RS5 that followed or as well received as the hallowed B7 RS4 from a few years prior, the S5 presents quite the case study as a used purchase a decade and a bit after launch. The A5 was the first car to use Audi's modular MLB architecture, also underpinning the contemporary A4, A6 and Q5; it's still used for the Porsche Macan, in fact. For the Audis at least, it ushered in an era of interiors that, while today will be lacking in terms of screen resolution and so on, do still make sense. For an S5 like this the familiar MMI arrangement is on the dash rather than the transmission tunnel, but it still appears eminently usable. And how good do those dials look?


Slightly more pertinent is that, for a brief period from launch, the first S5 was available with a 4.2-litre V8 and a manual gearbox. It soon went to supercharged V6 and DSG, in line with the S4 saloon and Avant, and the period of big engines in not-all-that-large Audis was consigned to history. But some were sold, and a few still exist; mighty tempting they still seem, too...

Because this is surely still the best looking A5 - one of Audi's finest mainstream efforts - powered by an eight-cylinder engine that delivers its peak of 354hp at 7,000rpm. With a six-speed manual gearbox. And available here, with less than 60,000 miles and a full Audi service history, for £12,000. Hopefully that appeal doesn't need too much explaining around here.

Yes, it won't drive like an M3, but that was never really the point anyway. An RS5 engine will zing with even greater vigour, though it's automatic only. And, actually, has less torque. A C63 AMG does V8 swagger like nothing else, but it's more expensive. Take the S5 as it is - a stylish, fairly modern Audi with a great engine and a manual gearbox - and it'll be hard not to like. Especially one in such great condition: see the matching Pirellis, decent MOT history and well preserved interior? Those things that it doesn't have, stuff like CarPlay and the Sport Differential and Virtual Cockpit, will put many off the old S5; this powertrain should ensure plenty if interest from a committed clique, though. And you can count us very firmly among them.


SPECIFICATION | AUDI S5

Engine: 4,163cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed manual, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 354@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 325@3,500rpm
MPG: 22.8
CO2: 298g/km
First registered: 2008
Recorded mileage: 58,000
Price new: £39,825
Yours for: £11,950

See the original advert here.





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MadDog1962

Original Poster:

900 posts

193 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Gorgeous thing.

However, brave pills probably necessary.

2smoke

233 posts

142 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Aged very well and still looks sharp. Never driven one, but surely a nice thing to smoke around in if the ride isn’t so harsh - which I fear it might be. Are the engines problematic?

heisthegaffer

4,325 posts

229 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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My good pal had. Later v6 Supercharged S5. Beautiful car. Very fast yet brilliant at cruising long distances too.

Nefos

258 posts

115 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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2smoke said:
Aged very well and still looks sharp. Never driven one, but surely a nice thing to smoke around in if the ride isn’t so harsh - which I fear it might be. Are the engines problematic?
I looked into these engines while I was lockdown, and it seems they are actually reliably. They are an evolution of the B7 S4 V8 engine, which has some issues, but most of them are sorted, and the timing chain is in the front, rather than the back. All the troubles I have heard are water pump, sometimes injectors and coils, but then again, those are consumable parts anyways. "Might" surprise you but it is not the cheapest to maintain. The convertible (V6T) version of this model has very cheap insurance though!

Drl22

803 posts

96 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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That was a bargain price for a new car, £40k. I bet the current S5 must be £50-60k new now.

cerb4.5lee

45,216 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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These have always really appealed to me. I love a V8 mated to a manual gearbox, and I've always liked the shape of these too. I'd be happy in this I reckon.

CDP

8,062 posts

285 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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MadDog1962 said:
Gorgeous thing.

However, brave pills probably necessary.
Yup, the other day (after having trouble with the exhaust on my A4) the local specialist was telling me for an S5 they needed to drop the sub frame to change the starter motor.

That would change what is a 15 minute job on an old Ford Escort into half a day.

It is a lot of car for the money though and I can't help fancying one.

v8griff

84 posts

291 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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I owned one of these for 12 months, albeit the automatic version.

Very pretty to look at and typically well built. However the driving experience was a let down for me, never felt like a 350bhp car and just didn't feel that quick.

I knew it would like a drink, you don't buy a V8 S5 and worry about consumption, but 15 MPG around town was a high price to pay for a car of this capability.

Sounded nice though.

Ultimately a let down for me, inferior in every way to the E92 335i it replaced. If you're looking for a quick coupe at this money and age, I'd recommend the BMW.

Bispal

2,002 posts

182 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Having owned a B7 RS4 and endured that car / engine foibles when I replaced it I chose a B8 S5. The supercharged engine is much better, its not lumpy, cheaper to maintain, will do 30+mpg on the m-way and doesn't need 15 mins to warm up. You loose the V8 sound if that's what you like but I was not bothered, its a heavy engine and I actually prefer the sound of 6 cylinders to 8.

This brings me to the B8 platform, like all Audi's its not good. No steering feel, numb handling, zero feedback and a total absence of any fun. A stage 1 tune on mine would see 0-60 in the damp in 4 seconds, not that you could feel it. It never excited me. I never drove it quickly as it just fell to pieces and there was no point. Audi make very comfortable, reliable, usable cars but fun and exciting they definitely are not.



dunnoreally

1,356 posts

139 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Nice thing in isolation, but I feel like there's still a solid selection of larger displacement manual coupes at this money that will be a bit more exciting to drive. BMW 335 and Nissan 350Z (if you can do without back seats) being the obvious ones.

Then again none of those is specifically a V8, so I guess it depends how important that is to you.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

258 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Always liked these when they were new.

What's not to like? V8 motor, manual gearbox, all wrapped up in a great looking car. I nearly pulled the trigger on one, but having Read Evo's long term reviews, it was more cruiser than sporty car. Decided against it.

Have to say, the original A5 looks far far better than todays car. But that's been the same with most Audi's recently. Original R8 looks much better than the one we have now.

flatso

1,367 posts

160 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Always been a beautiful looking car, the V8 manual is in deed very attractive at the prices they go for now.

thiscocks

3,401 posts

226 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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v8griff said:
I owned one of these for 12 months, albeit the automatic version.

Very pretty to look at and typically well built. However the driving experience was a let down for me, never felt like a 350bhp car and just didn't feel that quick.

I knew it would like a drink, you don't buy a V8 S5 and worry about consumption, but 15 MPG around town was a high price to pay for a car of this capability.

Sounded nice though.

Ultimately a let down for me, inferior in every way to the E92 335i it replaced. If you're looking for a quick coupe at this money and age, I'd recommend the BMW.
Surley it beat the BMW on sound?

waynecyclist

14,837 posts

145 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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flatso said:
Always been a beautiful looking car, the V8 manual is indeed very attractive at the prices they go for now.
Agreed, they do look nice also OY reg could it have been a press car.

Motormatt

508 posts

249 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Someone has one of these locally to me, a tatty example but always sounds lovely as it goes past. A surprisingly old school V8 sound for something that looks modern and understated.

silentbrown

11,015 posts

147 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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MadDog1962 said:
Gorgeous thing.

However, brave pills probably necessary.
I *think* these don't suffer with timing chain problems like the V8 in the B7. Best hope not...


New S5 is £53K. (Of course, big discounts available as always...)

culpz

4,966 posts

143 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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MadDog1962 said:
Gorgeous thing.

However, brave pills probably necessary.
They are a good looking car in coupe form.

Not sure you really need brave pills for one of these though. Okay, so it's not going to be cheap to run, but i don't believe they have that many serious issues. It's still an Audi, but it's not exactly vastly complex either.

T1berious

2,680 posts

186 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Drl22 said:
That was a bargain price for a new car, £40k. I bet the current S5 must be £50-60k new now.
I thought the new one is diesel only as well?

This looks like a decent car if you can live with the period infotainment. Guess you'd be listening to the engine anyway!

pb8g09

3,294 posts

100 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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v8griff said:
I owned one of these for 12 months, albeit the automatic version.

Very pretty to look at and typically well built. However the driving experience was a let down for me, never felt like a 350bhp car and just didn't feel that quick.

I knew it would like a drink, you don't buy a V8 S5 and worry about consumption, but 15 MPG around town was a high price to pay for a car of this capability.

Sounded nice though.

Ultimately a let down for me, inferior in every way to the E92 335i it replaced. If you're looking for a quick coupe at this money and age, I'd recommend the BMW.
Your review is exactly why I keep going back and forward on whether to go for one of these. Quite a few owners seem to like them but don't love them.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Well I am going dissent, really don't like the shape or understand the appeal either, just looks a bit squashed and lardy.

The regular running costs of the S variant (excluding fuel) aren't too bad as a lot of parts are common to the lower spec cars, the step up to the RS has a much bigger cost.