RE: Venturi Atlantique 300 | Spotted
RE: Venturi Atlantique 300 | Spotted
Wednesday 10th March 2021

Venturi Atlantique 300 | Spotted

You thought Alpines were rare French sports cars...



The history of French sports cars in the UK is long and not a little intriguing. Because we love their hot hatches, and we fawn over their bizarre sports car-hot hatch hybrids - yes, Clio V6, that means you - but the actual mid-engined two-seaters have never quite hit the same spot. And before you mention the Alpine A110 - which we all know is wonderful - who do you know other than Dan Prosser and Gordon Murray that has one?

We love Porsches too much, don't we? And Lotuses, too, of course; if it's a two-seat, two-door, mid-engined thoroughbred you're after, why not get one from perhaps the best maker there is? Especially when it's representing the home team; in the same way that an Alpine probably holds additional appeal in France, so a Lotus does in Britain.


Venturi is probably a name best known now for Formula E and weird motor show concepts, but some may remember its dalliance with sports cars once upon a time. Created by Claude Poiraud and Gerard Godfroy, the first Venturi (or Ventury, as it was then) came to being in 1984; by 1987 it had evolved into something like the car it became known as during the 1990s, with the mid-mounted PRV V6 and a GT remit, aimed at Aston and Porsche.

Venturi even went racing, which is perhaps where many will know the cars from - the 600LM took victories in the BPR GT championship, and there was a Le Mans finish in 1995. Nevertheless, motorsport pedigree didn't work in Venturi's favour, nor did ample turbocharged performance and nor did favourable press reviews - as today's Spotted proves.

This 1998 Atlantique 300 V6 is believed to be one of just six right-hand drive cars supplied, an incredible number given the model was produced in various forms for nine years between 1991 and 2000. Think about cars considered extremely rare and how many there are compared to the Venturi: Bentley will build 12 Bacalars (at £1.5m each), 63 Lamborghini Sians will leave Sant'Agata (at €2.5m each) and the decidedly plentiful production run of 88 Aston V12 Speedsters has been allocated - albeit at a mere £765,000 per car. All of those you're more likely to see than the humble Atlantique, and it's only £40k...


As you would hope and expect for such a rare groove sports car (at no point has a Venturi been an accidental purchase), the Atlantique looks to have been doted on in its 23 years and 37,000 miles over here. The advert doesn't have a huge amount of detail, but the pics rather speak for themselves, cream upholstery still looking fresh and the paintwork sparkling. We'll assume that the panel gaps and the plunger of a gearstick were the same on all cars...

Jokes aside, this manual Atlantique looks a gem, the perfect riposte to the obvious 90s' sports car options at this price point. Quite what challenges exist when it comes to running one are unclear, though the V6's more workaday origins should at least mean knowledge exists around that. Nobody needs reminding that £40k buys all manner of Esprit, 911 or TVR right now, just as £60k bought the same sort of thing when new, but those that want to think a little differently should almost always be commended. Surely nowhere is that truer than with a Venturi Atlantique 300.


SPECIFICATION | VENTURI ATLANTIQUE 300

Engine: 2,975cc, turbocharged V6
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 285@5,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 315@2,500rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1998
Recorded mileage: 37,000
Price new: c. £60k
Yours for: £39,995

See the original advert here.



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Chestrockwell

Original Poster:

2,940 posts

185 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I think this is one of the best looking cars ever made, the proportions are just perfect!

Turini

474 posts

194 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Very 456 at the front but not quite as well proportioned at the rear. Interior awful but most were from this period, nice car all the same

Edited by Turini on Wednesday 10th March 09:31

728 days later

619 posts

91 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Love it, price doesn’t seem ridiculous for such a rare and good looking car either.

FA57REN

1,262 posts

83 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Turini said:
Interior awful but most were from this period, nice car all the same
Looks glorious to me, all tactile controls and not a single touch screen. A cockpit for driving, not listening to podcasts.

anonymous-user

82 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I think it looks brilliant, seriously ahead of its time. Let's face it, parts will be impossible to get, so an interior retrim by a specialist is always likely to be on the cards anyway, which would improve things if that worries you. But what a beauty.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,717 posts

126 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Always liked these cars - a great left field choice and not that expensive, given the state of the market. They were very well reviewed at the time. That said, I can imagine getting spares would be a challenge, even though lots of bits are obviously sourced from elsewhere. I think that JayEm may have reviewed this car once ?

DevonPaul

1,722 posts

165 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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That is gorgeous..

I could quite happily swap the Maser and wife's Z4MC for that, although not sure the seller would go for it.

And I'd gain garage space for a ride on mower smile

Dimwit3

34 posts

66 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Hints of Ferrari 456 and 355 in the styling.

I've always like the looks of these and this particular car is for sale in Clay Cross which ain't too far away from me !

cerb4.5lee

44,015 posts

208 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I've really liked these ever since they first came out. I seem to have a thing for rare cars for some reason. As mentioned this seems like good value, and the chances of seeing another out on the road are slim to none.

Turini

474 posts

194 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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FA57REN said:
Turini said:
Interior awful but most were from this period, nice car all the same
Looks glorious to me, all tactile controls and not a single touch screen. A cockpit for driving, not listening to podcasts.
Good point, hadn’t considered it from that point of view..! Touchscreens should have no business in a car

Dr G

15,940 posts

270 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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All day long.

Even when it's broken you can just sit there and look at it.

Fink-Nottle

389 posts

70 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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There's an excellent website, a kind of French version of Evo run by enthusiasts, that tells you all about the Venturi:

https://www.automobile-sportive.com/guide/venturi/...

(Google Translate will produce reasonably intelligible results.)

They say there was a biturbo version that was quicker off the mark than a regular 911 and as fast as a Viper GTS from 0 to 1000 m. Unfortunately only 13 of these were produced.

bigbadbikercats

651 posts

236 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Always liked these cars - a great left field choice and not that expensive, given the state of the market. They were very well reviewed at the time. That said, I can imagine getting spares would be a challenge, even though lots of bits are obviously sourced from elsewhere. I think that JayEm may have reviewed this car once ?
I think the oily bits are all PRV (see Alpine A310, A610 et-al) and a lot of other working parts (electrics etc) will be generic Renault/Peugeot/Whatever parts bin stuff so probably not too bad for day to day stuff given a bit of parts list detective work.

Actually I reckon a comparison between this and the Alpine V6 Turbo era stuff (and maybe the DeLorean DMC12 thrown in for good measure since that’s another mid-engined sports car built around the same basic engine) might make for quite an interesting little article some day...

Augustus Windsock

3,779 posts

183 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Dimwit3 said:
Hints of Ferrari 456 and 355 in the styling.

I've always like the looks of these and this particular car is for sale in Clay Cross which ain't too far away from me !
I think this is in Coney Green (an industrial estate but not one of those dim, dirty and dingy ones, all new buildings with all sorts of higher class businessmen)
Personally I’d prefer this to a Lotus Esprit. I think. I’m guessing most of the ‘spares’ that previous posters refer to would be PSA based but the flip side being that parts of that vintage may be harder to come by.
As for the price, I don’t think it’s extortionate by any means, especially compared to some of the tat that is getting pedalled at high prices currently...

The Hypno-Toad

13,280 posts

233 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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728 days later said:
Love it, price doesn’t seem ridiculous for such a rare and good looking car either.
This ^^^^

When you consider what some people are spending on far less interesting cars this is a proper bargain.

It would only be for special occasions and getting parts would probably be a task and a half but what a lovely looking thing. And of course, pop up headlights which are just the coolest thing ever.

Jon_S_Rally

4,414 posts

116 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Always thought these were pretty. Remember it appearing in one of the Gran Turismo games when I was a kid.

A shame I had to look on Wikipedia to find out any information about the car though, rather than article containing some actual fact instead of wistful comparisons to Porsches.

p4cks

7,475 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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The Hypno-Toad said:
728 days later said:
Love it, price doesn’t seem ridiculous for such a rare and good looking car either.
This ^^^^

When you consider what some people are spending on far less interesting cars this is a proper bargain.

It would only be for special occasions and getting parts would probably be a task and a half but what a lovely looking thing. And of course, pop up headlights which are just the coolest thing ever.
I third this. When people are looking to pay £30K for an old, questionable Peugeot this looks like an absolute bargain.

spikyone

1,908 posts

128 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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The Hypno-Toad said:
728 days later said:
Love it, price doesn’t seem ridiculous for such a rare and good looking car either.
This ^^^^

When you consider what some people are spending on far less interesting cars this is a proper bargain.

It would only be for special occasions and getting parts would probably be a task and a half but what a lovely looking thing. And of course, pop up headlights which are just the coolest thing ever.
Same thoughts here. Knowing the rarity I expected it to be significantly north of that price, wouldn't have been entirely surprised if it had been double. If you squint it looks a bit like the very pretty mid-'90s Ferraris, at the time it looked a little bit kit car but it's aged very nicely.

sideways man

1,654 posts

165 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I was at Le Mans in the early’90s, and saw two of these. Pretty things, there was quite a crowd around them. Don’t think I’ve seen one since then.

Bobo W

787 posts

280 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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p4cks said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
728 days later said:
Love it, price doesn’t seem ridiculous for such a rare and good looking car either.
This ^^^^

When you consider what some people are spending on far less interesting cars this is a proper bargain.

It would only be for special occasions and getting parts would probably be a task and a half but what a lovely looking thing. And of course, pop up headlights which are just the coolest thing ever.
I third this. When people are looking to pay £30K for an old, questionable Peugeot this looks like an absolute bargain.
I'm obviously in the minority here but as good as looking as it is, it's rare for a reason as it was overpriced when new and IMHO is overpriced still