Bad bollards or bad driving

[Lotus Elan +2]

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2021-10-20/crash-a...

Just saw this on the ITV news.

I would say 'mostly' bad driving

[Whatsinaname]

Bad driving, as simple as that. You should know the width of your vehicle and then drive accordingly. If you can’t fit through don’t try simple!

[Skyedriver]

With modern cars getting wider and wider I think 7feet (2100mm) is a bit tight unless you go very slow and carefully. OK that's the way it should always be anyway but I bet in something like an Audi Q7 or RR Evoke, you lose sight of the bollards as you approach.

[bearman68]

Skyedriver said:

With modern cars getting wider and wider I think 7feet (2100mm) is a bit tight unless you go very slow and carefully. OK that's the way it should always be anyway but I bet in something like an Audi Q7 or RR Evoke, you lose sight of the bollards as you approach.

So there's some upside then?

[vikingaero]

Both.

Most width restrictions have just two bollards, one on each side of the car to squeeze through. Here you have 6 in total.

With some of the London ones I drive through at walking pace. Here some drivers are going through too fast. And some of them seem to be lining themselves in the car centrally to the lane rather than being an offset driver.

[Skyedriver]

bearman68 said:

Skyedriver said:

With modern cars getting wider and wider I think 7feet (2100mm) is a bit tight unless you go very slow and carefully. OK that's the way it should always be anyway but I bet in something like an Audi Q7 or RR Evoke, you lose sight of the bollards as you approach.

So there's some upside then?

Yup, cars is just too big.
My (once classed as big) car, a Volvo 940 Estate looks tiny in a car park nowerdays.

[grumbledoak]

Yes, there is bad driving, but really these unnecessary obstacles on the roads are just spiteful anti-car measures. The planners know damn well that cars will be damaged.

[Tabs]

I did read that there is a driveway just before the bollards. The driver thinks the vehicle is on the road until it goes up the 'ramp'. This propels the vehicle at an awkward angle and the offside then hits kerb causing the vehicle to go upwards in the air.

[stuarthat]

Good viewing idiot drivers ,restriction near my house 6.6 (ft ) very entertaining sometimes ,my Ford transit goes through no bother ,.

[MarkwG]

grumbledoak said:

Yes, there is bad driving, but really these unnecessary obstacles on the roads are just spiteful anti-car measures. The planners know damn well that cars will be damaged.

Agree, that's designed deliberately to catch people out, which is the opposite of traffic calming. If it can catch a police van, then not fit for purpose. Whoever signed that off deserves all the aggravation I hope they get.

[ChocolateFrog]

One of the vans in the background skipped round via the bus lane, I imagine that's very common.

[Qubo]

Bad driving .full stop .

The first car that hits is a tiny car Aygo / 107 type ,no excuse to hit a 7' restrictor in such a small car .

Later footage shows a large van squeezing through ,carefully , nuff said .

[JapanRed]

Whatsinaname said:

Bad driving, as simple as that. You should know the width of your vehicle and then drive accordingly. If you can’t fit through don’t try simple!

Each to their own but I completely disagree (in the nicest way). Not everyone is a PistonHeads expert driver. I’d imagine most on this forum would be well above average drivers, but for an average driver that’s too narrow. My mums not a bad driver (probably average or slightly worse) and she would really struggle there in her Juke. I’d like to think I’m a good driver but I’d be holding my breath driving the 911, Q7 or even golf through there).

Roads should be designed knowing that both above and below average drivers will drive on them. You can’t always account for the 1% outliers but you do need to consider those millions of perfectly ok drivers who are below average.

[Super Sonic]

Meh. Bad driving. I've driven through a 7' restriction w bollards in a Luton van. When I got back to the factory I measured the width of the van body.
6'10"!