RE: Toyota MR2 (Mk3) | Shed of the Week

RE: Toyota MR2 (Mk3) | Shed of the Week

Friday 4th February 2022

Toyota MR2 (Mk3) | Shed of the Week

The MOT is imminent, and it needs a little TLC - but Shed-money MR2s won't be around forever...



Ah, projects. The things that we all like the sound of, but that most of us know full well will never be brought to fruition. Comic genius Peter Cook once asked a guest at a literary drinks party what he was doing at the moment. 'I'm writing a novel,' came the reply. 'Ah yes,' retorted Cook. 'Neither am I.'

There we have the eternal curse of the project. Mark Twain noted that the secret to getting ahead was getting started. Unsurprisingly, given his busy lifestyle, Shed has many unstarted projects on the go. Some of them are now so ancient that they are no longer worth pursuing, like the Betamax tape cabinet for the living room, the coat peg assembly for his Batman suits, and the plywood 8-track centre console for the Series II Landie. Having cleverly not started any of these projects, Shed is now happy to count them as wins. The Landie console never really reached a point of relevance because the foul groaning from the 2.0-litre diesel engine was too horrendous for anyone to be able to hear any music in it anyway.

The key point about car projects is that some are voluntary, but others are forced upon us if we wish to continue to enjoy a vehicle. This gen-three W30 MR2 fits into that pigeonhole. It looks OK from a distance but it will need time, effort and money spending on it. Judging by the volume of significant work that's already been done on it, Shed reckons that last phrase will have been used just about every time its V5 has been signed over to the next mug - sorry, owner.


No, that's harsh. These are great little cars when they're not dissolving underneath you. The MOT on this one is due in just over a week's time. Looking back through the record we see that February 2020's test resulted in major works being carried out on marginal front braking and excessive structural corrosion in the offside rear. At some point between that test and the next one in Feb 2021 more sweat and swearing went into de-rusting a front crossmember and solidifying both rear spring mounting points. Some front suspension bushes were replaced in that period too.

The car passed the Feb 2021 test at 102,000 miles with advisories for steering play and slight underbody corrosion. What new and interesting maladies it might have accrued in the twelve months and 7,000 miles since then will soon become known. Shed's take on it is that successive owners have tried to do right by the car but the most recent one has seen the writing on the wall and is trying to cut his or her losses. Who knows or cares. The point is that this could be your chance to excitedly 'take on a project' and then resignedly sell it months or years later when you have finally accepted that the remedial work is going to be a bit harder than polishing the top of the dash.

The good thing about this March 2003-registered Midship Runabout is that it looks like the facelift model, which should mean the six-speed box and the less borkable engine. Shed is channelling PH's Matt here because he (Matt) admits to lusting after a six-speed MR2 in the first lockdown. As we now know, he forgot all about that project and bought a 3 Series BMW instead. Typical.


Anyway, the selling dealer has kindly provided us with a clear and comprehensive set of images to work with. We're told about (and shown) new rear brakes - braking componentry of one sort or another having popped up on just about every MOT report since 2007 - and the Avon tyres look nice and chunky. The peeling lacquer on the nearside rear wing will upset a perfectionist, but there's nothing wrong with the hood that a few roughly-torn lengths of bright yellow gaffer tape can't put right. If you can't stand that idea or can't accept the hood as it is, posh new aftermarket mohair jobbies can be easily picked up on tinternet, as long as you find handing over between £700 and £800 easy.

The inside looks clean apart from some predictable wear to the driving seat bolsterage. The next owner will probably want to bin those rusty old locking wheelnuts pretty sharpish if it's not already too late. MR2s are not great cars to have a puncture or any sort of breakdown in, on account of how there is nowhere to stash useful tools, or anything at all really apart from perhaps a small sandwich. Even then it would have to be a thin one with just the merest whiff of fish paste applied and no lumpy bits of salad sticking out.

When he wasn't talking about projects Mark Twain had many a wise word about to say about gullible people and those who gulled them. 'All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure,' he said. He also said that a gold mine was a hole in the ground with a liar at the bottom. Nowadays we might call that a money pit. This MR2 could be a pit, or indeed a pendulum. Sorry, something's gone wrong with this metaphor, but you'll have to sort it out yourself as Shed has wandered off to the workshop to consider - though not necessarily action - possible next steps in his long-running and as-yet-unstarted Amstrad PCW 8256 refurb project.


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cento16v

Original Poster:

87 posts

162 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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I've always fancied this shape MR2, it's a shame they never put the 189hp engine in them from factory.


Nu57jez9639

942 posts

51 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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Always fancied 1 of these or an mx5 , Never had either preferred first 2 generations probably be a good car with money spent on it, Cars going to cost well over 2 grand buy the time you have bought a new roof unless a really good roof can be found of a breaker etc before all work for mot , must need plenty spending on it as surely the dealer would get it sorted , so definitely a no from me .

glazbagun

14,799 posts

210 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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While it could be made into a better car, better cars are still so cheap it would be easy to puck one of those instead. AFAIK it's really only the rear subframe that rots on these. With that and a decat (assuming your emgine is good) I'm not sure that anything can go wrong. They're pretty basic.

I've always wanted to A/B mine with an Elise to see if I could live with the difference daily.

CDP

7,732 posts

267 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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Good shed, if you are happy with DIY. At least used parts are available. Experience tells me Toyotas aren't quite as reliable as the reputation (frankly that worried be impossible).

Clearly a better example should save money in the long term but that's not the point.








Mysstree

517 posts

59 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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It’s a parts car If you say need new front wings, front end and bonnet. Decent looking wheels.

glazbagun

14,799 posts

210 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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Yeah I like the wheels. I remember loving that blue when these and the celica were new. Think I prefer the dark grey now.

Craikeybaby

11,080 posts

238 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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I wasn’t expecting a facelift model at shed money. Given that you can pick up a decent one for not too much more, it would probably be a better move to do that rather than paying out for this one.

Edited by Craikeybaby on Friday 4th February 20:14

Bill

55,356 posts

268 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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Shed/Brave Pill combined? Cheap enough not to be a Pill I guess.

I can't see why a dealer would sell it. Surely the buyer would MOT it and then get their money back if the result is too horrific?

I'm far too tempted. biggrin Wife had one in the same colour back in the day as we fitted in it better than an MX5 (Both of us 6ft+, not pie related. wink ) Brilliant little car, albeit a bit tight for baggage for more than a weekend away.

Edited by Bill on Friday 4th February 08:25

Portofino

4,669 posts

204 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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I had one of these in the same lovely colour with leather seats a few years ago.

Very underrated cars with house fly handling & good looks. Engine is a little bland but keep your foot in & pace is more than adequate.

A poor mans Elise indeed.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

209 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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Still the best handling car I’ve ever owned, perfect grip vs slip, balance and weight.

cerb4.5lee

36,005 posts

193 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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I always read good things about these, and I'd really like a go in one. I like the colour of this one too.

Gad-Westy

15,447 posts

226 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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Bill said:
Shed/Brave Pill combined? Cheap enough not to be a Pill I guess.

I can't see why a dealer would sell it. Surely the buyer would MOT it and then get their money back if the result is too horrific?

I'm far too tempted. biggrin Wife had one in the same colour back in the day as we fitted in it better than an MX5 (Both of us 6ft+, not our related. wink ) Brilliant little car, albeit a bit tight for baggage for more than a weekend away.
I’m always very sceptical with stuff like this. If it was an easy pass, you’d think the dealer would just do that. It looks like it needs a new hood and paint around the rear before anything oily needs doing. I’m with others, I like these but I think this one would be a false economy.

trickywoo

12,754 posts

243 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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It would of course be madness to do it but if you spent Elise money on this would you end up with a better car? I think you would.

pti

1,781 posts

157 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Still the best handling car I’ve ever owned, perfect grip vs slip, balance and weight.
They really are universally praised for their balance. I've had a couple of mk2 turbos but never been in a mk3. They definitely won't be this cheap forever so I really should pull my finger out (and set a few £££ aside for a 2zz swap).

I do think I prefer the handling characteristics of FR to MR (hence I now have an MX5) but that's probably because I'm a bit ham-fisted.


spaximus

4,297 posts

266 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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We had one of these from new it was a great little car but suffered from scuttle shake when pressing on. should have kept it as a toy but WBAC gave strong money so it went.

Seem a couple now on track days which have had the Honda engine fitted and a few tweaks to tie everything in and they were outstandingly quick with sweet handling to add in.


Court_S

14,119 posts

190 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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I’ve never really paid much attention to these but those who own then do seem to like them.

With regards to this particular shed, I think you’d be better off spending more on a better car especially given the short MOT.

Turbobanana

7,064 posts

214 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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After the MkI (which was cute) and MkII (which was sleek), I always thought this was a massive backward step - looks like some sort of bullfrog that's been rogered unexpectedly from behind.

I'll pass thanks.

fantheman80

1,857 posts

62 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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After the good looking Mk2, I always thought these looked a bit of a whimp. I appreciate its more in the ethos of the Mk1, but the Mk2 moved things on

MrBrown1980

31 posts

117 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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For what you could end up paying to make this good, you could just get a good one.
Budget brave pill for sure.

Fady

399 posts

217 months

Friday 4th February 2022
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I've owned one for the last 5 years and have previously owned a Mk2 turbo (rev 3). In terms of spec I got one with a hardtop (and a barely used soft top in immaculate condition) as well as leather seats, air con and a sports exhaust. All that for under twice the price of this one. You do get used to the looks and in my opinion it's more fun to drive that the MK2.

I would pass on this example as a new roof is at least £600 and in all likelihood a bit more. There is generally little point trying to source one from a breakers as they are all likely to be sh@gged and it's a fair bit of work. That's before you even get onto the mechanics and bodywork. Worth spending a little bit more for a more loved example,