Why does no one overtake?
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I did a pretty painful journey from Holyhead to London yesterday, with wind, rain, snow, diversions, hold ups and all that. I had Waze on and did lots of route changes as each route got worse and eventually ended up on the A5 heading south towards the A43 where the weather had improved significantly.
Anyway at one point we got stuck behind a knackered old horse box and about 15 cars, it was painful but at every opportunity to get past it, including two lane sections everyone just sat there at 35mph staring at the back of the vehicle in front.
I started picking a couple off whereupon they started getting all eggy, closing the gaps up, flashing lights etc. Its really weird
What was even weirder was when we got on the A43 (a dual carriageway for those that don't know it) I came across another line of traffic all sitting behind another horsebox as it plodded round the roundabouts at 5mph.
Fannys, the lot of them
Anyway at one point we got stuck behind a knackered old horse box and about 15 cars, it was painful but at every opportunity to get past it, including two lane sections everyone just sat there at 35mph staring at the back of the vehicle in front.
I started picking a couple off whereupon they started getting all eggy, closing the gaps up, flashing lights etc. Its really weird
What was even weirder was when we got on the A43 (a dual carriageway for those that don't know it) I came across another line of traffic all sitting behind another horsebox as it plodded round the roundabouts at 5mph.
Fannys, the lot of them
stinkyspanner said:
I did a pretty painful journey from Holyhead to London yesterday, with wind, rain, snow, diversions, hold ups and all that. I had Waze on and did lots of route changes as each route got worse and eventually ended up on the A5 heading south towards the A43 where the weather had improved significantly.
Anyway at one point we got stuck behind a knackered old horse box and about 15 cars, it was painful but at every opportunity to get past it, including two lane sections everyone just sat there at 35mph staring at the back of the vehicle in front.
I started picking a couple off whereupon they started getting all eggy, closing the gaps up, flashing lights etc. Its really weird
What was even weirder was when we got on the A43 (a dual carriageway for those that don't know it) I came across another line of traffic all sitting behind another horsebox as it plodded round the roundabouts at 5mph.
Fannys, the lot of them
Correct, they are. Drives me mad, I'm not advocating driving like a nutter, but, please, make a bit of progress folks! IMHO, they are pretty inconsiderate.Anyway at one point we got stuck behind a knackered old horse box and about 15 cars, it was painful but at every opportunity to get past it, including two lane sections everyone just sat there at 35mph staring at the back of the vehicle in front.
I started picking a couple off whereupon they started getting all eggy, closing the gaps up, flashing lights etc. Its really weird
What was even weirder was when we got on the A43 (a dual carriageway for those that don't know it) I came across another line of traffic all sitting behind another horsebox as it plodded round the roundabouts at 5mph.
Fannys, the lot of them
I've experienced the same. Worst one is when they aren't confident to overtake but don't leave a big enough gap to the vehicle in front for you to overtake them and then slot into the gap before overtaking the one in front of them.
My car isn't the most powerful and there are times when I don't feel comfortable attempting overtakes that others might be happy with, but in those cases I hang well back from the vehicle in front.
My car isn't the most powerful and there are times when I don't feel comfortable attempting overtakes that others might be happy with, but in those cases I hang well back from the vehicle in front.
Oh no, not this old topic again!
I don't overtake because overtaking saves nothing on my journeys. Except where there are multiple lanes, and even then it's not clear cut.
Relax, just waft along, and you'll arrive more refreshed, with more fuel in the tank, less risk, and with less wear-and-tear on the car, so less repairs etc.
Try a spreadsheet to see how much time you actually save. I've worked it out.
.. now I'm just off to put my suit of armour on to fend off the replies I'll get from this
I don't overtake because overtaking saves nothing on my journeys. Except where there are multiple lanes, and even then it's not clear cut.
Relax, just waft along, and you'll arrive more refreshed, with more fuel in the tank, less risk, and with less wear-and-tear on the car, so less repairs etc.
Try a spreadsheet to see how much time you actually save. I've worked it out.
.. now I'm just off to put my suit of armour on to fend off the replies I'll get from this
M4cruiser said:
Oh no, not this old topic again!
I don't overtake because overtaking saves nothing on my journeys. Except where there are multiple lanes, and even then it's not clear cut.
Relax, just waft along, and you'll arrive more refreshed, with more fuel in the tank, less risk, and with less wear-and-tear on the car, so less repairs etc.
Try a spreadsheet to see how much time you actually save. I've worked it out.
.. now I'm just off to put my suit of armour on to fend off the replies I'll get from this
Perhaps you should try overtaking. You'll actually be far more refreshed and relaxed from driving at your own pace than having it dictated by the vehicle in front. If going faster than the slow driver in front doesn't save any time, or wastes fuel, or causes your car to break down (?) how did you manage to catch up with them in the first place?I don't overtake because overtaking saves nothing on my journeys. Except where there are multiple lanes, and even then it's not clear cut.
Relax, just waft along, and you'll arrive more refreshed, with more fuel in the tank, less risk, and with less wear-and-tear on the car, so less repairs etc.
Try a spreadsheet to see how much time you actually save. I've worked it out.
.. now I'm just off to put my suit of armour on to fend off the replies I'll get from this
I mainly just waft along these days (at the speed limit) however I do leave a gap so you can come past me, that's the thing that is missing these days people seem to think it's an insult to be overtaken and try to stop people doing it which is dangerous/inconsiderate driving.
Anyone who closes the gap to stop another car should be banned IMHO and probably would be if witnessed by the police.
Anyone who closes the gap to stop another car should be banned IMHO and probably would be if witnessed by the police.
Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 20th February 18:48
I don't care if people don't overtake, as long as they leave a decent gap to get in to - I used to commute in Lincolnshire and it was a nightmare when people used to close the gaps deliberately to stop you getting in. Twice I genuinely thought I was going to end up in a horrible accident when a diesel dildo decided he didn't want to have anyone come past.
Overtaking is just another example of yet another rapidly disappearing aspect of roadcraft frowned upon by the terminally outraged who see being overtaken as a threat to their insecurities.
Like many others I was always taught to make safe bit swift progress on the roads whilst driving.
Pity as usual the moronic numpties lapping up the usual Brake bulls
t spoil it for the rest of us.
Like many others I was always taught to make safe bit swift progress on the roads whilst driving.
Pity as usual the moronic numpties lapping up the usual Brake bulls
t spoil it for the rest of us.M4cruiser said:
Oh no, not this old topic again!
I don't overtake because overtaking saves nothing on my journeys. Except where there are multiple lanes, and even then it's not clear cut.
Relax, just waft along, and you'll arrive more refreshed, with more fuel in the tank, less risk, and with less wear-and-tear on the car, so less repairs etc.
Try a spreadsheet to see how much time you actually save. I've worked it out.
.. now I'm just off to put my suit of armour on to fend off the replies I'll get from this
Nominative DeterminismI don't overtake because overtaking saves nothing on my journeys. Except where there are multiple lanes, and even then it's not clear cut.
Relax, just waft along, and you'll arrive more refreshed, with more fuel in the tank, less risk, and with less wear-and-tear on the car, so less repairs etc.
Try a spreadsheet to see how much time you actually save. I've worked it out.
.. now I'm just off to put my suit of armour on to fend off the replies I'll get from this
I try and overtake. But annoyingly i usually find myself at the back of a queue consisting of a horse box, a caravan, two lorries and three nissan micras.
My car is reasonably fast, but not fast enough to make a 7 vehicle overtake a good idea.
As for picking them off one or two at a time, thatll likely take me 20 odd miles, and only in wales or scotland are there continuous stretches of road long enough to make it worthwhile.
My car is reasonably fast, but not fast enough to make a 7 vehicle overtake a good idea.
As for picking them off one or two at a time, thatll likely take me 20 odd miles, and only in wales or scotland are there continuous stretches of road long enough to make it worthwhile.
It’s rare I overtake as I’ve had people accelerate and put me in danger. I overtook 3 cars on a dead straight road the other day the second car moved out as I was overtaking beeping at me. They were doing 35-40 in a 60. The answer is the next car needs to make over taking a very easy transaction regardless of the other car.
Backtobasics said:
It’s rare I overtake as I’ve had people accelerate and put me in danger. I overtook 3 cars on a dead straight road the other day the second car moved out as I was overtaking beeping at me. They were doing 35-40 in a 60. The answer is the next car needs to make over taking a very easy transaction regardless of the other car.
HC168.They need a slap
I'm definitely miles more chilled out now and I don't overtake all that much. Whereas when I was younger I would try to overtake everything that was in front of me, but there was a lot less traffic on the road back then though.
Overtaking on the A roads around me is pretty pointless because there are always long lines of traffic in front, so you just don't really gain anything by doing it.
Overtaking on the A roads around me is pretty pointless because there are always long lines of traffic in front, so you just don't really gain anything by doing it.
It often depends on the weather and the prevailing conditions, I find overtakes where I live tricky when there’s lot of standing water or even actual flooding. It depends how far I’m travelling too if I’m making a short journey I might not try to push on in such conditions.
Not very PH but honest.
Not very PH but honest.
Don't get me started. There's a 30 limit road within the Richmond London Borough. There are clear signs stating the speed as you leave the 20 zone surrounding it. Everyone seems to think it is a 24mph-26mph road? I've overtaken a few times when it's safe but most people are happy to tailgate for 2 miles. Mental.
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