RE: Porsche Boxster Spyder (981) | Spotted
RE: Porsche Boxster Spyder (981) | Spotted
Thursday 31st March 2022

Porsche Boxster Spyder (981) | Spotted

The clocks have changed, time to think sports cars. And they don't come much better than the 3.8 Spyder



In a way, it's easy to feel a bit sorry for all three generations of Porsche Boxster Spyder, as there's always been an equivalent Cayman hogging the headlines. The first was accompanied by the launch of the Cayman R, which had some commenters flustered that this Porsche R wasn't another 800kg 911; then came the Cayman GT4, and not even a Boxster Spyder as good as the 981 was getting a look in against that; then the latest 718, despite first-time involvement from Porsche's GT division, has never been the centre of attention. Blame the return of the flat-six GTS and the GT4 RS for that.

While this is all relative - nobody has actually forgotten about this trio of superb roadsters - the 981 Spyder in particular seems long overdue for a revisit. Because it could well be argued that it's the best of the bunch, which would make it arguably the best Boxster ever. The roof was less complex than the 987's yet the overall look perhaps even nicer than the 718; the 3.8 flat-six delivered performance beyond the original and is barely any slower than the current car; plus its manual-only status gives the 981 the sort of collectible cool the 718 and its PDK option doesn't have. Quite a lot going for it, then.

Furthermore, while this era of Spyder didn't get the full GT overhaul like its 4.0-litre replacement, the Boxster remains fantastic to drive. To all intents and purposes, it was a 981 GTS - already a great sports car - with more power, more torque, less weight and some minor suspension tweaks. Interestingly, this car was never offered with Porsche's PASM dampers; like the manual gearbox, you took the passive set up or you didn't have the car. Given how popular the option is, that was a bold choice by Porsche to really celebrate the Spyder's old-school ethos.



Happily, the car drove beautifully anyway, even on the 20-inch wheels that made the Spyder look astonishingly good in the flesh. Factor in the howl of a proper flat-six and terrific, feelsome handling, and the model really did make for a fitting flagship to the already excellent 981 range. Assuming you could get one, there really weren't many better way to spend £70k on a sports car.

And there still isn't. The Spyder may not be talked about quite as fervently as the Cayman GT4, but values have remained strong. Though the current market situation will have helped its cause, it's hard to recall any point since 2015 that a Spyder has been worth significantly less than its new price. Another reason owners love them. This one is a special spec even by Spyder standards, the first owner fully embracing the stripped-out, purist ethos by spending a lot of money on the ceramic brakes as well as the carbon seats. They even went as far as keeping the PCM infotainment system out - recouping £2k towards the PCCB and buckets, at least. If a Spyder is all about the driving, then nothing here will distract you from that.

Four owners have racked up almost 30,000 miles in this Boxster since 2015, which is an impressive tally - clearly the missing stereo didn't put them off! It's more miles than many of the cheaper GTS Boxsters of a similar age, and 10 times that of the other Spyder currently for sale on PH. Which means a handy saving - £67k for this one against £80,000 for the sub-3,000-mile car. And while the options added (as well as not added) for this specific car might narrow its appeal, the Boxster only needs one new owner from all the Porsche fans out there. You suspect they might be very happy indeed with their new car.


SPECIFICATION | PORSCHE BOXSTER SPYDER

Engine: 3,800cc flat-six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 375@6,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 310@4,750-6,000rpm
0-62mph: 4.5sec
Top speed: 180mph
MPG: 28.5 (NEDC)
CO2: 230g/km (NEDC)
Year registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 28,656
Price new: £69,702 (before options)
Yours for: £66,980

See the original advert here




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TheMilkyBarKid

Original Poster:

891 posts

60 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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The sun is shining where I live today and if I had one of these in the garage to enjoy after work it would indeed make me very happy! To me they look fantastic, there’s that lovely flat 6 in the middle so no need for the stereo and you’d lose no money at all on it bar running costs so it passes the man maths test. I’d love one.

boringbeige

380 posts

202 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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I've got one of these from new, similar spec, different colour. It s by far the most fun road car I've ever had...and I've had a lot. It sounds amazing, goes like stink, feels light and responsive and very special. During the time I've had this I've had and moved on 4x GT3RS and 3 other Boxsters, including 4.0 gts, and a 718 GT4, the 981 Spyder is a more fun road car than all of them !

TheMilkyBarKid

Original Poster:

891 posts

60 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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boringbeige said:
I've got one of these from new, similar spec, different colour. It s by far the most fun road car I've ever had...and I've had a lot. It sounds amazing, goes like stink, feels light and responsive and very special. During the time I've had this I've had and moved on 4x GT3RS and 3 other Boxsters, including 4.0 gts, and a 718 GT4, the 981 Spyder is a more fun road car than all of them !
Good for you, I’ve only got my imagination to go on of course as to how they drive so it’s good to hear that they are as good as I would have imagined, and with your back catalogue that’s high praise indeed! thumbup

MrHooky

238 posts

173 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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My goodness that looks great.

This and the latest era of Boxster to my eyes is where the Boxster actually started looking as good, if not better than a 911, certainly than a 911 cab anyway.

As has been said, if you can afford the outlay, the man maths make it a sensible non depreciating fun second car.

Slippydiff

16,494 posts

254 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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boringbeige said:
I've got one of these from new, similar spec, different colour. It s by far the most fun road car I've ever had...and I've had a lot. It sounds amazing, goes like stink, feels light and responsive and very special. During the time I've had this I've had and moved on 4x GT3RS and 3 other Boxsters, including 4.0 gts, and a 718 GT4, the 981 Spyder is a more fun road car than all of them !
Good for you. Stunning looking things, and I'm not normally a fan of ragtops, but given the choice, I'd have a 981 Spyder over a 981/718 GT4 EVERY day smile

I think the Guards car linked to used to belong to a PH'er.








Dohnut

681 posts

77 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Just about all the car you need for the road. Fast enough, looks great and relatively speaking, not too expensive.

I've massive want for one of these in my life.

Chubbyross

5,015 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Dohnut said:
Just about all the car you need for the road. Fast enough, looks great and relatively speaking, not too expensive.

I've massive want for one of these in my life.
I’ve not driven one of the modern Boxsters (I have a 987.1) but if I were to have to chose just one car to see out my days I’d pick the car in this article. Along with the Boxster I also have a 911 and I’ve often thought about getting rid of both to get either one of these or the newer 4 litre version. I need to test drive a few but from what I’ve read I reckon I’d be pretty much done with car buying after that.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,674 posts

174 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Most special car I've had by a long margin, including many 911s and exotics. Sure, it only has less than 400hp but it really does feel fantastic... a few pics of mine inc ones from dealer. Now on 12,000 miles, and I'm 2nd owner.



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GTRene

22,787 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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boringbeige said:
I've got one of these from new, similar spec, different colour. It s by far the most fun road car I've ever had...and I've had a lot. It sounds amazing, goes like stink, feels light and responsive and very special. During the time I've had this I've had and moved on 4x GT3RS and 3 other Boxsters, including 4.0 gts, and a 718 GT4, the 981 Spyder is a more fun road car than all of them !
huh?
that's quite a list of Porsches, specially people mentioning those GT3 RS very high (btw what type GT3 RS)

so you rate that 981 spyder 'higher' then the others by fun, that can say a lot, can you explain in what? I mean, overall sounds clear, can you also specify why and or in what occasions, say engine, steering, braking, sound, maybe roof down helps vs RS or is it all combined, more good mix?
Or does it give's the driver something the others have only in parts or some moments.

because I'm now of to the classifieds here after such pro 981 spyder view. smokinbeer

Andy718

95 posts

111 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Brilliant intoxicating cars, however this particular car is now priced at roughly £12k more than it sold for in 2020, kudos to the previous owner for taking a gamble on an ex press car with pcm/ac delete then selling to the trade who thought they'd make a killing. wink

TommyRS_

42 posts

99 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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I'm sure they were £60K list, not £69k

Slippydiff

16,494 posts

254 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Andy718 said:
Brilliant intoxicating cars, however this particular car is now priced at roughly £12k more than it sold for in 2020, kudos to the previous owner for taking a gamble on an ex press car with pcm/ac delete then selling to the trade who thought they'd make a killing. wink
Dealers would have seen Guards red, and PCCB's and thought kerr ching ...
Lack of aircon and nav is seemingly a real issue for the modern day Porsche owner.
Just needs to be priced right, and it looks overpriced to me even now spring is in the air (leaving aside the snow this morning ...)

GTRene

22,787 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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in NL 2 cars, cheapest 110k euro the other same year 129k... both 2016

Trickytimes

39 posts

219 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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I have a 2011 987 Spyder which I love but the roof is a right royal pain in the a***! In 10+ years I have only done 6000 miles as it feels like it needs the roof down and you only take it out when you are convinced it isn't going to rain (pretty rare in the North of England). Often wonder if I would use one of these more. The roof is clearly an improvement but still looks like a hassle.

Slippydiff

16,494 posts

254 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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GTRene said:
boringbeige said:
I've got one of these from new, similar spec, different colour. It s by far the most fun road car I've ever had...and I've had a lot. It sounds amazing, goes like stink, feels light and responsive and very special. During the time I've had this I've had and moved on 4x GT3RS and 3 other Boxsters, including 4.0 gts, and a 718 GT4, the 981 Spyder is a more fun road car than all of them !
huh?
that's quite a list of Porsches, specially people mentioning those GT3 RS very high (btw what type GT3 RS)

so you rate that 981 spyder 'higher' then the others by fun, that can say a lot, can you explain in what? I mean, overall sounds clear, can you also specify why and or in what occasions, say engine, steering, braking, sound, maybe roof down helps vs RS or is it all combined, more good mix?
Or does it give's the driver something the others have only in parts or some moments.

because I'm now of to the classifieds here after such pro 981 spyder view. smokinbeer
GT4 engine and box, which even though some whinge about the ratios being too long, really isn't an issue on the road. It did without the 991.1 GT3 front suspension, so is a bit better suited to road use.
Porsche fitted the 991.1 Turbo steering rack and a smaller diameter steering wheel to spice things up.
The spring and damper rates were softened, and the car is generally biased towards road use rather than setting 'Ring times. Plus with the top up or down, the engine noise is more visceral than in a GT4. It's a win win car.

Tech overview here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwHyk-C-pQE

Roadtest by the same individual here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BvArgVAIQ0

douglasgdmw

540 posts

250 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Trickytimes said:
I have a 2011 987 Spyder which I love but the roof is a right royal pain in the a***! In 10+ years I have only done 6000 miles as it feels like it needs the roof down and you only take it out when you are convinced it isn't going to rain (pretty rare in the North of England). Often wonder if I would use one of these more. The roof is clearly an improvement but still looks like a hassle.
Had a 987 Spyder and know the pain but as you know there is an art to it. Only issue I had was the lack of use of the 987 Spyder meant the muscle memory was lost each time I had to do it. Reminded me of the fun I had on the roof of my Lotus S1 Elise.

However you have to weigh up between the hassle of the 981 Spyder rear boot, which is a piece of cake in the 987 but not in the 981. Suppose its Porsche's way of saying if you want a hassle free life then buy a standard bodied boxster.

TheMilkyBarKid

Original Poster:

891 posts

60 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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[quote=Billy_Whizzzz]Most special car I've had by a long margin, including many 911s and exotics. Sure, it only has less than 400hp but it really does feel fantastic... a few pics of mine inc ones from dealer. Now on 12,000 miles, and I'm 2nd owner.

That’s fabulous, good on you

Four Litre

2,174 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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I've been thinking of upgrading from my 981S to a spyder for while.

Anyone know what's wrong with the red one advertised (apart from not having a head unit). Its been up for sale for literally months and the garage don't seem to want to sell it. I've messaged them many times?!

av185

20,464 posts

158 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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Great car the 981 Spyder but unfortunately slightly down on power compared to the 981 GT4 which is a shame whilst the boggo Carrera 2S engine sounds good they are effectively strangled and economy is dire as a result taking an age to warm up especially in the winter months doesn't help.

981 GT4 sounds slightly better stock with more authentic sound compared to the 981 Spyder which has rather over contrived farty pop exhaust especially in sport plus.

Usable car though with more front clearance than the the more focused GT4. Standard pirelli tyres fairly crap though.

Couple of mistakes in the article the basic list price was £60k not £69k also the older folding p3 model buckets were standard fit and not an extra. Bizarrly some internal extras were also slightly cheaper than the £65k basic 981 GT4 options overall making the Spyder good value despite its basic chassis v the GT3 front chassis GT4 having bigger and better brakes too.

Enjoyed running my new 65 plate white Spyder alongside my new red 65 plate GT4 although overall I preferred the GT4 as it was way more focused as a drivers car.

Both cars have held up well residually in fact if 'd kept them both I could have got similar money now to what I sold them for in 2017 even with additional mileage.


kambites

71,699 posts

252 months

Thursday 31st March 2022
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It seems like a bloody stupid idea - take a Boxster, make it far less practical for a minimal weight saving and charge twice as much for it... but somehow they just seem to feel so much more than the sum of their parts.