WTF has happened to "Cruise Control"??
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Can someone explain to me what the hell this car is doing...
I currently have a brand spanking new Tiguan to use whilst my car is repaired after being rear ended. It looks to be a top of the line model, full leather, pano roof, dsg box etc etc. It also has adaptive cruise control and lane assist, which I have on my own car and have used in many other cars with no issue.
I've just driven home and have the cruise control set to 100kph. Along a certain stretch, there is a smaller 50kph road running parallel to this 100kph one that I am on, separated by a high kerb. Suddenly I hear a loud *BONG*, and the car slams the anchors on so hard that my face print is on the windscreen for eternity, and the car then settles to 50kph and continues cruising. Further down the road, it then reads another 100kph sign (showing 100kph on the dash) but does it speed up for me? No!
I've messed with all the settings and cannot find anyway of turning it off, but it's incredibly frustrating. I even tested it out on the motorway and purposely set the cruise control to 130kph in a 120kph zone to see what the car does. It proceeded at 130kph but would then immediately slam anchors on when the sensors picked up a "new" 120kph sign, and would then not allow me to accelerate past 120kph myself unless I frantically stabbed away at the throttle pedal.
I'm not a man that speeds often or drives like a lunatic, but this just seems incredibly controlling and almost dangerous. Imagine if you're trying to accelerate from a lorry or something coming into your lane and this stupid thing is taking about 20 seconds to decide whether it let's you or not!
Madness.
I currently have a brand spanking new Tiguan to use whilst my car is repaired after being rear ended. It looks to be a top of the line model, full leather, pano roof, dsg box etc etc. It also has adaptive cruise control and lane assist, which I have on my own car and have used in many other cars with no issue.
I've just driven home and have the cruise control set to 100kph. Along a certain stretch, there is a smaller 50kph road running parallel to this 100kph one that I am on, separated by a high kerb. Suddenly I hear a loud *BONG*, and the car slams the anchors on so hard that my face print is on the windscreen for eternity, and the car then settles to 50kph and continues cruising. Further down the road, it then reads another 100kph sign (showing 100kph on the dash) but does it speed up for me? No!
I've messed with all the settings and cannot find anyway of turning it off, but it's incredibly frustrating. I even tested it out on the motorway and purposely set the cruise control to 130kph in a 120kph zone to see what the car does. It proceeded at 130kph but would then immediately slam anchors on when the sensors picked up a "new" 120kph sign, and would then not allow me to accelerate past 120kph myself unless I frantically stabbed away at the throttle pedal.
I'm not a man that speeds often or drives like a lunatic, but this just seems incredibly controlling and almost dangerous. Imagine if you're trying to accelerate from a lorry or something coming into your lane and this stupid thing is taking about 20 seconds to decide whether it let's you or not!
Madness.
I didn’t know the VW system responds to speed signs. There just be a setting somewhere for that?
Most adaptive cruise systems I have used will adjust the car speed if there is a slower vehicle in front, then speed up when cleared/passed, no interaction or information from speed warning signs.
I googled it: https://www.tiguanforums.co.uk/threads/tiguan-acc-...
Hopefully the same for your car?
Most adaptive cruise systems I have used will adjust the car speed if there is a slower vehicle in front, then speed up when cleared/passed, no interaction or information from speed warning signs.
I googled it: https://www.tiguanforums.co.uk/threads/tiguan-acc-...
Hopefully the same for your car?
The Rotrex Kid said:
I didn’t know the VW system responds to speed signs. There just be a setting somewhere for that?
Most adaptive cruise systems I have used will adjust the car speed if there is a slower vehicle in front, then speed up when cleared/passed, no interaction or information from speed warning signs.
I googled it: https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/turn-off-road-sig...
Hopefully the same for your car?
Don't seem to have that option unfortunately. Have went through all the menus etc. To answer someone saying it can be manually over ridden, the car does this even with the cruise control turned off altogether! If you're "speeding", it detects the sign, slams anchors on until youve slowed to the posted speed, and will not let you accelerate past that point unless you press and depress the throttle for what feels like an eternity. It's incredibly frustrating Most adaptive cruise systems I have used will adjust the car speed if there is a slower vehicle in front, then speed up when cleared/passed, no interaction or information from speed warning signs.
I googled it: https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/turn-off-road-sig...
Hopefully the same for your car?
NateWM said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
I didn’t know the VW system responds to speed signs. There just be a setting somewhere for that?
Most adaptive cruise systems I have used will adjust the car speed if there is a slower vehicle in front, then speed up when cleared/passed, no interaction or information from speed warning signs.
I googled it: https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/turn-off-road-sig...
Hopefully the same for your car?
Don't seem to have that option unfortunately. Have went through all the menus etc. To answer someone saying it can be manually over ridden, the car does this even with the cruise control turned off altogether! If you're "speeding", it detects the sign, slams anchors on until youve slowed to the posted speed, and will not let you accelerate past that point unless you press and depress the throttle for what feels like an eternity. It's incredibly frustrating Most adaptive cruise systems I have used will adjust the car speed if there is a slower vehicle in front, then speed up when cleared/passed, no interaction or information from speed warning signs.
I googled it: https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/turn-off-road-sig...
Hopefully the same for your car?
https://www.tiguanforums.co.uk/threads/tiguan-acc-...
I'm trying to get my head around a Ford version, it has Road sign recognition Afaik ? Slows down in adaptive after passing through the limit sign ! Appears to default to 20 after stopping so re join a 40 and until another sign it stays on 20.
It can be disabled but I'm becoming accustomed to it, parked cars are also sensed by the adaptive/collision avoidance system too.
It can be disabled but I'm becoming accustomed to it, parked cars are also sensed by the adaptive/collision avoidance system too.
Rather than a cruise control setting, is this maybe the new mandatory speed limiter?
See here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
See here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
It does sound like the "intelligent" speed limiters which are legally required to be fitted from later this year. That behaviour is exactly what I thought would happen given how rubbish the advisory version is, which has been on many cars for a while now.
If it is a mandatory speed limiter, the only way to disable it may be a piece of black tape stuck in the right place on the windscreen to cover the camera up.
If it is a mandatory speed limiter, the only way to disable it may be a piece of black tape stuck in the right place on the windscreen to cover the camera up.
I don't understand why people use cruise control and then complain that it goes wrong, just drive the car yourself.
How can it be a surprise that some cheap software and cameras aren't as effective as a human brain (the most amazingly complex and sophisticated conscious neural network on the planet) yeah yeah I know but it's actually true.
How can it be a surprise that some cheap software and cameras aren't as effective as a human brain (the most amazingly complex and sophisticated conscious neural network on the planet) yeah yeah I know but it's actually true.
Nickbrapp said:
Same system as in golf 8, you go into vehicle settings, and change the cruise control from “intelligent” to adaptive, then it doesn’t use the road sign camera to set the cruise speed.
This exactly. The problem is the VW system will pick up random signs it sees through the camera in the windscreen. It does this in conjunction with a database but unfortunately it’s not very reliable. On my Arteon I very quickly turned off the intelligent cruise control due to experiencing the exact same thing as the OP. With it set to just pick up and display speed limits you can see that around 20% to 30% of the time it’s wrong. Wills2 said:
...just drive the car yourself....
It seems this is what the OP is trying to do, but failing to find the correct options to stop the car interfering. I wonder if some gaffer tape over the sensor might stop it seeing the signs
Seems a fundamentally daft system, how long before protesters go round placing 5mph signs alongside roads to get cars to slow to a crawl?
Or enthusiasts putting 99mph signs on their favourite piece of road....
Vasco said:
Whatever happened to proper drivers .....er....driving ?
No need whatsoever for stupid additions like this.
Agreed. No need whatsoever for stupid additions like this.
I guess we need to blame regional legislation though rather than the manufactures who simply need to play ball in order to sell cars.
As our OP demonstrates, the system reality isn’t matching what the politicians wrote on paper. What worries me is the lack of being able to turn all this b
ks stuff off. Praying that after market code crackers get into the ECUs and can flash all this crap out of your new car for a few ££.
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