RE: BMW Z8 Roadster | Spotted
RE: BMW Z8 Roadster | Spotted
Thursday 21st April 2022

BMW Z8 Roadster | Spotted

Twenty years ago, the 400hp Z8 made a fairly mediocre case for itself - what about now?



Funny one, the BMW Z8. After the warm reception at the 1997 Tokyo show of the Z07 concept - an evocation of BMW's delicious Mercedes 300SL-rivalling 507 roadster of the mid 1950s - a green light was given for the short-run production of a retro-styled two-door.

The Z8 Roadster would be designed by Henrik Fisker under the beardy supervision of Chris Bangle. It would be hand-built by BMW Motorsport with aluminium body panels laid onto an aluminium spaceframe. The engine would be the 5.0-litre V8 from the M5, the gearbox a six-speed Getrag manual. Top speed would be limited to 155mph, but the claimed 4.7sec 0-62mph time lent credibility to leaked PR asides suggesting a delimited 180mph.

The interior was unapologetically - some might say clumsily - period, dominated by a quad-spoke 'wire' steering wheel and centralised instrumentation that flagged up large areas of nothing much directly ahead of the passengers. Supposedly this was to minimise distractions from the commanding majesty of the view for'ard. To be fair, the acreage of button-free body-coloured dash trim panels became much more effective as a design feature when the body colour in question was a strong one.


The seats didn't look all that different to those found in a mid-spec 3 Series, but in general the Z8 had the very best kit from BMW's goodie sack: traction and stability control, navigation, climate, neon rear lights (there were no LEDs back then), powered/heated seats, powered steering wheel (fore and aft only), powered hood with a double-bubble metal hardtop included, runflat tyres - ah. Well, in every life a little rain must fall. Still, at least BMW offered plenty of personalisation options to buyers.

Ah yes, buyers. It's significant that of the 5,700 Z8s made, more than 2,500 went to the American market, The advertised price was $128,000 until one of the big car mags there declared it to be superior to the Ferrari 360 in acceleration, braking and handling, at which point a bidding war broke out and prices went through the roof.

It was a different picture in the UK, where fewer than 150 'official' examples were available. Even so, at £80,000 they didn't exactly fly off the shelves. This was partly due to BMW's failure to build any right-hand drive cars, but on another level there was some confusion about what the car was meant to be about. British journos appreciated the 400hp drivetrain but wondered why it wasn't chucking out more horsepower per litre. The Z8 weighed 1,660kg and never felt face-meltingly rapid. Others ventured the opinion that, despite its 50/50 weight distribution, the 'soft' chassis made it more of a boulevardier's car than a baws-oot blaster. Contemporary magazine reviews were vanilla even on a good day.


Fortunately for those who bought and doggedly held onto their Z8s, nostalgia has a useful tendency to strip away most if not all negative memories. In the Z8's case that gold-panning process has uncovered a rare grand tourer with a nice V8 engine, a comfy and refreshing driving experience, and an appearance that - if you can ignore the excessive chroming - has matured very nicely. Predictably there has been in a ramping-up of values. There are fewer than a hundred Z8s registered in the UK now, although the absence of RHD cars means that it's effectively a 'world car' in terms of market mobility. In other words, a car's location shouldn't affect its price.

Of the six examples for sale on PH Classifieds at the moment, three are Price On Application. For those who don't really get the concept of Applying for Prices, that leaves three cars to choose from. If we attribute a value of £25,000-£30,000 to the 28 GB registration plate that comes with the most expensive of these, that suggests a value of £220k-£225k for the one-owner, 23,000-mile car that's attached to it. For £25-£30k less than that you could have this 11,000-mile three-owner car. Will everyone be a fan of the urgent interior though, even if that was for many a default look for the Z8? Hmm.

Which leaves this silver Z8 as our Spotted favourite. Not just because the black leather is easier on the eye after a heavy night out, but also because the price is right, or more right at any rate, at £149,950. That's about as low as Z8s go these days. Anyone thinking of getting into one will be heartened to hear that BMW committed itself to maintaining a 50-year stockpile of Z8 parts, so that should be you covered until 2050. Whether BMW will be able to supply you with petrol at that point is another matter.


SPECIFICATION | BMW Z8 ROADSTER

Engine: 4,941cc V8
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 400@6,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 369@3,800rpm
MPG: 19.5mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 349g/km
First registered: 2001
Recorded mileage: 40,500
Price new: £80,000
Yours for: £149,950

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oilit

Original Poster:

2,818 posts

209 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Im not sat here thinking:-

1) Wow that has aged well
2) what great value (mind you what cars are at the moment?!)
3) i must have one

Turini

477 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Have never understood the elevated value of these, even if other are fetching north of £200k at this money there are many more hugely desirable cars I’d park myself in.

I accept that it floats certain boats and am not criticising that

popegregory

1,921 posts

165 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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I really like these and there’d be one parked outside my Euromillions lake como bolthole. I don’t understand the mad prices one little bit and why didn’t they make RHD for us?

andymadmak

15,726 posts

301 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Don't these have a significant structural issue with the aluminium chassis? Something to do with the front shock mounts distorting on anything other than smooth roads, causing irreparable damage?
Apols if I've dreamed that...

VR6 Eug

832 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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A car from when BMW made good looking cars.

bluemason

1,169 posts

154 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Turini said:
Have never understood the elevated value of these, even if other are fetching north of £200k at this money there are many more hugely desirable cars I’d park myself in.

I accept that it floats certain boats and am not criticising that
Good looking BMW + inflation =current price

Speed1283

1,200 posts

126 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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I think these look great I would love one, sadly they've been sky high price ways for quite some time. But they are rare so I'm not surprised.

Bispoto

176 posts

103 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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I can see the appeal when compared to many restromods or modern copies of past cars now beyond the reach of mortal man. They appear to be anything from £500,000 upwards, but I still think this is over priced and the vendor is cashing in.

That said, why shouldn’t they and aren’t all cars over priced at the moment or have I simply lost touch?

I like it’s looks, put could £150,000 to much better use and suspect I would be very disappointed when I drove it. Don’t meet your hero’s as they say.

British Beef

2,573 posts

196 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Nice car, great engine, not worth £100k in my opinion, much less whatever these joker dealers are asking for it.

E39 M5 and Z4M covers every base better and for 30% the cost of this.

The dealer will say........ it is rare........ super desirable... appreciating asset.....BMW styling at its best........bullst I say!

BFallon

30 posts

77 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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A roadster should not be pumping out 349 g per Km of CO2. That is just primitive. If you want a fast, stylish roadster, get a TTRS.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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oilit said:
Im not sat here thinking:-

1) Wow that has aged well
2) what great value (mind you what cars are at the moment?!)
3) i must have one
I'm with you on point 1.

The price...lots of pork or Italian for that dollar

Itsallicanafford

2,963 posts

190 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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i can clearly remember walking past hexagon BMW in London back in day and these being around £40K second hand.


whp1983

1,410 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Ah reminds me of being a kid and watching James Bond….. Z3 the same.

Thought the Z3 was prettier…..

helix402

7,913 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Having driving these and E39 M5s back to back when new my experience was the Z8 had much greater mechanical grip. The M5 relied much more on the traction control to put the power down.

SteveR1979

601 posts

172 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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andymadmak said:
Don't these have a significant structural issue with the aluminium chassis? Something to do with the front shock mounts distorting on anything other than smooth roads, causing irreparable damage?
Apols if I've dreamed that...
Yes, yes they do!!

Buzzfan

140 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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These seemed stunning when new but a bit underwhelming now. But do they really fetch Alfa 8C money ?

MissChief

8,014 posts

199 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Itsallicanafford said:
i can clearly remember walking past hexagon BMW in London back in day and these being around £40K second hand.
I seem to remember one dealer pretty much buying up all the available UK stock and having a virtual monopoly on them. If you wanted a Z8 you basically had to go there and pay their sometimes considerable premium. It may even have been Hexagon.

Captain Raymond Holt

12,424 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Should have been given a bigger grille.

Maccmike8

1,615 posts

85 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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I think it looks fantastic and Ive always had that view.
Steering wheel is nice but the rest of the interior is shocking.
I see these more like £75k. 1/4Mill is ridiculous.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st April 2022
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Pretty car