RE: Rolls-Royce Phantom | Spotted
RE: Rolls-Royce Phantom | Spotted
Tuesday 24th May 2022

Rolls-Royce Phantom | Spotted

You can buy a used Phantom for almost nothing (comparatively speaking). Should you?


I’ve always been a Phantom man. Not in the sense that I am a figment of the imagination or that I pass through the walls of stately homes giving residents the heebie-jeebies. I mean in the Rolls-Royce sense. However, I was going to write something about the Maybach 57 I spotted for £50-odd thousand, just to be different I guess, but then I thought I’d check the price of Roll-Royce Phantoms as a comparison, and saw this. And, well, I just had to run with it instead. It’s unarguably the better model, so you’d have to have lost your mind – or keeping with the spectre theme, be Nearly Headless Nick – not to buy it instead.

It also got me thinking about the broader question of BMW’s design philosophy. It’s fair to say that the styling of BMW’s core cars is currently controversial: the M3’s grille; the new 7 Series’… err, everything. What’s coming out of Munich right now is raising more eyebrows than Roger Moore. And yet, when it came to reinventing brands around the dawn of the current millennium – when retro was ripe – BMW was the master. Admittedly, the Rover 75 was a bit too much of a pipe-and-slippers pastiche, but they got the Range Rover L322 bang on, in respect of repackaging the old with the new, and the same was true of the Phantom VII.

The car managed that trick of subtly blending the cues of the past with discrete modernity. This meant there was absolutely no mistaking it for anything other than a Rolls-Royce, and yet it came with all the modern trimmings. Now, as much as I love the SZ series cars and the Seraph, they couldn’t really claim to honour to that old boast of ‘Simply the best motor car in the world.’ The Phantom VII, on the other hand, could. It was. So much so that it floored Mercedes’ attempt to wow the very well-heeled with its relaunched Maybach brand from the moment it appeared.

The Phantom was, and is, everything a Roll-Royce should be: big and imposing on the road; spacious and trimmed opulently inside. Despite being blunt edged, it carried a discernible grace. Just look at the manner in which its body grows in stature as you move from its slightly stubby tail to its long and substantial bonnet. It’s the same sort of visual crescendo that comes across when looking at the impossibly graceful Type 41 Bugatti Royale.

Once you enter the luxurious world within, that sense of ‘20s style continues. Indeed, the Phantom VII is a work of art inside. I just adore the styling cues of its Bakelite-look, thin-rimmed steering wheel. And what about its stacked and substantial dashboard, with rich burr walnut veneers and exquisite marquetry, which is reminiscent of the very best Art Deco side boards. Fantastic stuff. As are the elements that hark back to Rolls-Royces of old: the beautifully classic white on black dials; the light switch panel that could have been plucked straight from a Shadow I; the bullseye air vents and their organ-stop controls. It’s all so perfectly executed.

Yet, in among all this sumptuousness sat enough technology that meant you wanted for nothing in comparison to the gaudy Maybach. The Phantom came with the latest iDrive infotainment system, although the controls and display were only on show when needed. It had soft-close doors, five-zone climate control, 18-way power-adjustable front seats and 16-way adjustable seats in rear. And what enticing seats they are when viewed through an open suicide door. The cosseting, wingback design and oversized C-pillars, offering shelter from the outside world, just make it impossible not to want to dive in, like Alice in Wonderland, and experience them in a way that the back of a Maybach just doesn’t.  

Powering this monster is a wonderfully monstrous engine. The N73 V12 is a delightfully smooth, capable unit and, in another nod to the past, it was enlarged to 6.75 litres to mirror the capacity of the old L-Series V8. No need to hide its outputs through fear of embarrassment here, though, because the 460hp and 531lb ft of torque slushing through its six-speed ZF automatic gearbox really is adequate.

Travelling around in a Rolls-Royce is a statement in itself, but these days it seems that some buyers need to amplify this to the extreme – just in case bystanders might miss them trundling past in their titanic tonnage. Yet, if like me, you somehow seek to justify the showiness of a Rolls-Royce in the appreciation of its quality, rather than its image, you might understand why I chose this particular car. It’s about as discreet as you can make a Phantom. I suppose you could opt for the blacked-out theme that has become so popular, but that makes these most expensive of cars seem as cheap as chips. Not this one, though. Its navy with parchment and royal blue top roll and carpets just looks the business, while softly emphasising the materials and trimming inside. I think it’s a truly magnificent car. If you happen to have the just-shy-of £80,000 entrance fee, it’s surely worth every penny.


SPECIFICATION | Rolls-Royce Phantom VII

 

Engine: 6,749cc, V12, naturally aspirated

Transmission: 6-speed auto, rear-wheel drive

Power (hp): 460@5,350rpm

Torque (lb ft): 531@3,500rpm

MPG: 18.0

CO2: 343g/km

First registered: 2007

Recorded mileage: 57,000

Price new: N/A 

Yours for: £79,990

 

See original advert here

 

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Billy_Whizzzz

Original Poster:

2,672 posts

174 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Wow that’s cheap.

COM31E

2,188 posts

112 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I love these.

yme402

670 posts

133 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Makes a Dacia look expensive that does……

LotusOmega375D

9,417 posts

184 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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It’s only cheap because it looks like the umbrella is missing. Otherwise it would be £20 million.

samoht

7,317 posts

177 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Good spot and good write-up, I can definitely see the appeal.

ISTR Chris Harris bought one of these, and it combined a mass-market appetite for repairs with super-luxury parts prices to ruinous effect.

I'd also ideally want to know a bit more about the history of a car such as this, to validate the mileage and have an idea of useage/care.


BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,787 posts

129 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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When these came out, I thought they looked "vulgar" - it was for those who want to shout out "Look how rich I am". Maybe there's no other way of doing it at this price level ( and certainly a Maybach is probably worse ) but found it a hard car to love. Time hasn't changed things.....

Penguinracer

1,773 posts

237 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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To me the resemblance to the Rover P4 is striking, especially the suicide doors & that lumpy rear -end.


boozyjay

192 posts

97 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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samoht said:
Good spot and good write-up, I can definitely see the appeal.

ISTR Chris Harris bought one of these, and it combined a mass-market appetite for repairs with super-luxury parts prices to ruinous effect.

I'd also ideally want to know a bit more about the history of a car such as this, to validate the mileage and have an idea of useage/care.
Yes, and if memory serves me right, one of the eye wateringly expensive parts Harris purchased had BMW stamped on it, so he enquired about buying it from BMW and they wouldn't sell it him, it was Rolls Royce only. This may be 'cheap' at that price but the parts are ruinous.

MrGeoff

780 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I'm interested to know what sort of person throws 80k on a 15 year old Rolls Royce? I can't think why anyone would. Plus, could just be the pictures but is there something up with that n/s front door? The paint looks a little dull, like it's been sprayed before. Of course it could just need a proper detail.

JottoSW1

26 posts

57 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Not as satanically ugly as the latter-day ones.
Disconcerting to hear it was a spare parts muncher
Many old Shadows would simply keep going until that reached terminal condition.

Maxus

1,253 posts

212 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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These do still look rather majestic when you see one trundling down a road towards you.

I understand many of these have led interesting lives. Very different ownership profiles to normal cars. A quick look at the history of this one shows a few areas worthy of interrogation (7k miles between 2013 and 2018 but through a set of rear tyres and only 300 miles between 2019 and 2022 with no MOTs).

Definitely a brave move for someone but what a car.

ETA - Looks like a reputable specialist selling this who you would hope can validate the history.

Edited by Maxus on Tuesday 24th May 09:31

richinlondon

904 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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a bit 'Siralan' for me ...

BRR

1,908 posts

203 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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When these first came out I thought they looked vulgar and ostentatious, but in the 15 years since most brands have really outdone themselves in becoming ever more gaudy, leaving this looking relatively classy in comparison. I still don't want one but would like to have a drive of one

smilo996

3,893 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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So about 300 miles per tank. 170 quid to fill it up. (no ownder pretol is no longer quoted per gallon because it is @8,20 per gallon. 500 quid to get to Nice....or 1000 return. Scheduled BA flight between 750-1000. One would just not fly sleezyjet.
Sign me up. 😆
Definitely the best looking modern RR. The front has a whiff of Lady Penelope's Roller about it and suicide doors too, so much more convenient.

XR

342 posts

82 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Look where the front wheels are, no front overhang here, it's so out of proportion, it's wonderful. Reminds me a bit of some Bristols and Mk 4 Zephyr/Zodiacs. I would love a go!

magic Monkey Dust

407 posts

67 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I really love these and as a Rolls fan boy i can agree this is cheap, in reality same price as a well specced Defender. However as the owner of a Rolls i can say that you need deeper pockets to run it than you thought in the worst case scenario. Everything is specialist or you make the car unsaleable in future.
Also parking requires advance planning on google earth or you end up taking another car. Sadly i did 60 miles in mine one year. Although it was 60 very enjoyable ones.

Sandpit Steve

15,586 posts

105 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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80 bags of sand, for a 15-year-old BMW.

Too brave for The Brave Pill column? As other have said, Harris bought one on man-maths, and quickly got rid a few months later, the cost of running it was astronomical.

VS02

2,420 posts

91 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Magnificent when new, now looks to like its more suited to a Del Boy/pharmaceutical trader/loan shark.

To be fair to it, this is the case with its contemporaries too - noughties S Class, 7 Series, XJ, Maybach 57/62, Bentley Flying Spur

wpa1975

14,837 posts

145 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I like these but I think an S Class would make more sense for the money.


Sandpit Steve

15,586 posts

105 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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wpa1975 said:
I like these but I think an S Class would make more sense for the money.
Very rare 2016 S65L AMG in the classifieds, for the same price as this one.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13045637